I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

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I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by stropko » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:06 am

Has to be polyphonic. I don't care whether it's real or fake analog. Preferably cheap (of course). I've heard the Alesis Ion is good for this sort of thing...can anyone comment on that?

Think like...Funeral for a Friend by Elton John, early Prog-Rock (although the Mellotrons will be covered by my soon to get Electro 3 :D), Classic Rock (Fly Like an Eagle by Steve Miller Band), you get it.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by mcomeg » Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:50 am

If you don't need deep guttural weirdness, you'll probably be fine with an Alesis or one of the analog modeling Korgs (MicroKorg, MS2000). They'd certainly be more affordable. For the vintage plunge, I'd direct you to the Korg Mono/Poly or Polysix. I love the early Roland Junos too, but I'd say they're more 80's analog sounding. Although, if you really want 70's tones, why go poly? A Little Phatty or better yet a Minimoog Voyager would be a nice (if expensive) conduit straight to the heart of that 70's sound without all the vintage hang-ups. You'd be surprised what the Voyager can do with a monophonic tone.
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:35 am

A really easy way to replicate polyphonic 7s sounds is to multitrack monophonics. After all, that is how so much of what would be considered "70s sounding" polyphony was achieved. Really, apart from the Polymoog, string synths, or the unbearably expensive CS-80, most of the polyphonics from the late 70s are more associated with an 80s sound than a 70s sound. Okay, okay, you might aim for a Prophet 5, but still. The really 70s sounding polyphony came mostly from multitracked monophonics.
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Post by crystalmsc » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:13 am

stropko wrote:Has to be polyphonic. I don't care whether it's real or fake analog. Preferably cheap (of course). I've heard the Alesis Ion is good for this sort of thing
as far as a budget VA goes, I'm happy with my ION for those sort of sounds. but if working with a pc editor is not a problem, check out the fully loaded plugiator for a winter special offer.
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by mao » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:52 pm

Well if you don't care about analog or not, get a E-MU Vintage Pro and you'll everything 70's you need. Basses, leads, mellotrons, pads, choirs, drums... everything. 50 Zplane filters let you shape everything to fit your need.

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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by clusterchord » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:31 pm

Automatic Gainsay wrote:A really easy way to replicate polyphonic 7s sounds is to multitrack monophonics. After all, that is how so much of what would be considered "70s sounding" polyphony was achieved. Really, apart from the Polymoog, string synths, or the unbearably expensive CS-80, most of the polyphonics from the late 70s are more associated with an 80s sound than a 70s sound. Okay, okay, you might aim for a Prophet 5, but still. The really 70s sounding polyphony came mostly from multitracked monophonics.
agreed on most accounts, but beside CS-80, there way OB 4-voice/8-voice, that did a LOT of work in polyphonic dept. during mid70s. for a while, it was indeed the ONLY poly choice. in light of that, one can argue tnat OB-X, altough it came very late in 1979, is essentially a lowpass-only OB 8-voice. much more affordable, and stable synth overall. so for a vintage choice, i suggest finding an OB-X above all else. if u choose a new currently produced polysynth with capability to partly emulate this era, then its A6 all the way. and for VA... well.. dunno.. i guess Ion is keen on emulating the 70s filters like ladder and sem. but im not sure it does a good job with that.. anyway, 'd still take Nord over it, any time of day. regardless if it emulates well or not, its just so much more musical board than Ion. ymmv.
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by clubbedtodeath » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:16 pm

Hi Stropko

This sort of thing belongs in the Buyer's Guide forum. I've moved this there.

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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by premieklovn » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:54 am

Alesis Ion
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by Stab Frenzy » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:01 am

premieklovn wrote:Alesis Ion
Read the manual
Learn to program it
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by spookyman » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:22 am

clusterchord wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote:A really easy way to replicate polyphonic 7s sounds is to multitrack monophonics. After all, that is how so much of what would be considered "70s sounding" polyphony was achieved. Really, apart from the Polymoog, string synths, or the unbearably expensive CS-80, most of the polyphonics from the late 70s are more associated with an 80s sound than a 70s sound. Okay, okay, you might aim for a Prophet 5, but still. The really 70s sounding polyphony came mostly from multitracked monophonics.
agreed on most accounts, but beside CS-80, there way OB 4-voice/8-voice, that did a LOT of work in polyphonic dept. during mid70s. for a while, it was indeed the ONLY poly choice. in light of that, one can argue tnat OB-X, altough it came very late in 1979, is essentially a lowpass-only OB 8-voice. much more affordable, and stable synth overall. so for a vintage choice, i suggest finding an OB-X above all else. if u choose a new currently produced polysynth with capability to partly emulate this era, then its A6 all the way. and for VA... well.. dunno.. i guess Ion is keen on emulating the 70s filters like ladder and sem. but im not sure it does a good job with that.. anyway, 'd still take Nord over it, any time of day. regardless if it emulates well or not, its just so much more musical board than Ion. ymmv.
Yes, i agree...The OB-X is really a 70's sounding synthesizer. A Juno has a much more 80's character in it sound, more clean. The OB-X has this raw and organic character you find in many 70's monophonic, but in the case of the OB-X, polyphonic. A lowpass only Eight-Voice is not a bad definition. (I will try to make the modification on my OB-X to make it multi-mode...)

Back to the topic, an ARP Omni deliver also wonderful 70's sounding synth sounds...A Roland Paraphonic also. Many stringers that has a simple synth section has a much more 70's sounding character that the early 80's polyphonics. Perhaps limited possibilities, but 70's sounding.
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by madtheory » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:14 pm

Ya, the Ion can do string synths, Hammond and tranny organs and electric "pianos" based on organ technology, like the RMI Electrapiano. But IMO a sampler/ plugin is better for that kind of stuff, and does it more easily and more authentically. The polyphony is better too.

But I'm not familiar with the songs you mentioned, so I don't know if they used synths or "keyboards".

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Post by steveman » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:02 am

madtheory wrote: But I'm not familiar with the songs you mentioned, so I don't know if they used synths or "keyboards".
:shock: :? I must be getting old... :wink:

Actually 'Funeral for a Friend' is from 1973 so certainly not a polysynth of any sort.

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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by Micke » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:35 pm

That's right, the brassy chords on FFAF were built-up using an ARP 2500 modular synthesizer and multitrack tape recorder.
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Re: I'm looking for a synth to replicate old 70's sounds...

Post by steveman » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:48 am

Micke wrote:That's right, the brassy chords on FFAF were built-up using an ARP 2500 modular synthesizer and multitrack tape recorder.
Aha... Thanks Micke, always wondered what that was played on. :)

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