Onto the last one...
Christopher Winkels wrote:Care to answer the question then, rather than ducking it and obfuscating?
Before accusing anyone of obfuscation please notice that you
were asking rhetorical and joke questions youself in the first place. If you use words against their common usage and use them in an attempt to insult the other person's grasp on the issue, you really shouldn't expect an answer. However, several of these questions are a whole lot better and I think we can reach some common ground here:
Care to enlighten us on how that business model of yours works?
I am not disagreeing with everything what you have stated regarding this issue. If you'd actually read my post, I was stating that I seriously doubt the success of Moog or DSI relies on very modest vintage units being attempted to be sold for over 1000 at the internet. Mind you, the Moog Little Phatty has been nevertheless selling very well for years, even if vintage units that have had similar specs have gone for about 50% of its price.
So I don't think your reasoning is entirely truthful. It applies partly, of course.
Since you didn't address my original question, can I ask what is the fair price for, say, a Minimoog? A Jupiter-8? A 2600? Or, if you prefer, pick another vintage synth.
Okay, I can spot the misunderstanding here. The above-mentioned items are very capable instruments and I would dare to say they have a lot of cultural value as well. I don't see anything particularly shady about asking the same price or more for a Minimoog - that's in working condition - as the current price for a new Voyager is. Even if the prices were high already 3-4 years ago, I would say that they were about accurate then. Instruments from 70s and the 80s are hardly antique, but they are very capable units for music production. Living in Finland, I'm perfectly prepared to pay 20% more than what the current prices for most units in the States are, and nowhere
did I say that Minimoogs should be sold at 400$. That's just something you are yourself attributing as being a part of my own argumentation in order to make it seem less rational. Nevertheless, the logical consequence from the most sought-after units going at higher rates doesn't
mean that absolutely everything that uses a similar method of sound production should go through the same inflation of prices. These two are quite unrelated issues and it does not
form a serious threat to the production of modern analogs. Unless the modern analogs sound like s**t and people won't buy them anyway, of course.
The problem is how the internet provides great anonymity for a certain group of individuals, who'd have no chance to operate in a similar manner in the outside world. I don't see a difference with the people attempting to sell their SY-1 / 2s, PS 900's or Micropresets for a 1000 as any different than what the general conduct at sites like 4chan is. In the real world, you'll have to face people's disdain directly if you were a shop keeper and asking such prices for used units. Many wouldn't necessarily enter the store the second time.
The same phenomenon applies also for units with serious functional problems, such as broken keys, completely unfunctional sections etc. 200% price inflation within a year or two for anything that's vaguely analog can be attributed to the unsubstantiated, overall hype (this has happened locally over here). Yet as already stated by someone else, even the units that don't end up sold at too high prices will eventually just agitate the inflation. These units just get listed again and again at those prices and also increase the overall value for pretty much anything associated with the word "vintage" - so, yes, I would be inclined to call people who keep on doing this as "assholes". Especially considering that some of them seem to have several of these things, as well as other overpriced items like CDs / LPs, listed [i}all the time[/i].
Pardon me for making also such brash generalizations, but I think many of us have had also very negative experiences of how these very same individuals have either lied about the condition of the items, or, have failed to deliver the items without delays, tried to sell them to someone else for a higher price even when the deal has been already agreed on, etc.
The last array of your questions at the bottom of your post aren't worth answering to. Don't ask nonsense questions and expect to get answers. Thanks for reading anyway.