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Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:40 pm
by space6oy
yeah, the dark energy is controllable via midi or usb. pretty awesome. that's just direct midi/usb translation of control voltage to the VCO and gate to the ADSR though, controlling its filter is different, that's arranged via signal path of other CV output, ie LFO. ableton won't exactly be able to change the filter's cutoff, for example.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:16 pm
by f__p
uhm.. Ithought you could assign the cutoff to the mod wheel and then control it from ableton (or any other daw)..

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:36 pm
by sqweebking
Studio Electronics SE-1 is nice, can get a SE-1x or do the resistor mod to the SE-1 if you need snappier envelopes. I really like mine, you want to talk about being able to rattle some walls, this thing goes super deep. I think it can be had for cheaper than an ATC too.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:19 am
by space6oy
f__p wrote:uhm.. Ithought you could assign the cutoff to the mod wheel and then control it from ableton (or any other daw)..
to what mod wheel? it'd have to be one that output a control voltage, and even then for ableton to control that there would have to be a midi-cv converter.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:49 am
by monolith
space6oy wrote:ableton won't exactly be able to change the filter's cutoff, for example.
Unableton? :D :drums: :facepalm:

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:07 am
by Stab Frenzy
space6oy wrote:
f__p wrote:uhm.. Ithought you could assign the cutoff to the mod wheel and then control it from ableton (or any other daw)..
to what mod wheel? it'd have to be one that output a control voltage, and even then for ableton to control that there would have to be a midi-cv converter.
The Dark Energy's CV convertor has an output for mod wheel CV.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:16 am
by space6oy
Stab Frenzy wrote:
space6oy wrote:
f__p wrote:uhm.. Ithought you could assign the cutoff to the mod wheel and then control it from ableton (or any other daw)..
to what mod wheel? it'd have to be one that output a control voltage, and even then for ableton to control that there would have to be a midi-cv converter.
The Dark Energy's CV convertor has an output for mod wheel CV.
but what has to be used for that? doepfer keyboard?

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:47 am
by Stab Frenzy
Anything that sends midi mod wheel info. You can plug in any midi keyboard or you could even just draw the mod wheel automation in Live. :thumbleft:

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:56 am
by JJQ
Since nobody voted for the ATC-1, Ill give it my support.

It sounds good.

I dont remeber it the SH-2 has VCF CV in, if it has thats a very good one.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:35 am
by CS_TBL
How about 'any decent synth'?

Is there any reason why common 'full range' synths couldn't be used for basses?

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:43 am
by Ashe37
Some analogs that used early digital envelopes, the envelopes aren't quite as snappy as one usually wants for a bass.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:30 pm
by space6oy
Stab Frenzy wrote:Anything that sends midi mod wheel info. You can plug in any midi keyboard or you could even just draw the mod wheel automation in Live. :thumbleft:
that's awesome, but i don't get it - is there a cv out jack on the dark energy specifically for the mod wheel message it receives via midi from the controller?

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:07 pm
by aeon
Roland SH-2/09 is great for this. I love the envelope response on these VCO bass machines.


cheers,
Ian

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:40 am
by Stab Frenzy
space6oy wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:Anything that sends midi mod wheel info. You can plug in any midi keyboard or you could even just draw the mod wheel automation in Live. :thumbleft:
that's awesome, but i don't get it - is there a cv out jack on the dark energy specifically for the mod wheel message it receives via midi from the controller?
Yes. And velocity, pitch wheel, note and gate. It's the same as the A-190-2 module.

Re: Analog Bass Synth - which one?

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:57 am
by space6oy
huh, cool! didn't know that. just controlling my modular via mobius.