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Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:41 pm
by pflosi
Sorry in advance for the thread hijack...

I'm also starting to think about finally building a modular. First tough question was about the format: while I love (the look of) 5U, I kinda decided to go euro because there's so many options. So that's that...

Next question: cases / frames. I have the impression they are all really expensive. I kinda would like to have a case that's portable and has a cover, so that more or less rules out things like the doepfer low cost cases or DIY. Then the doepfer standard suitcases spring to mind, but thinking of that I also have the impression that in that case it would be the best idea to get the doepfer monster base frame to begin with (as a modular is obviously a long term project and in that case it's good to look forward...). Also, I'm in Europe and thus doepfer is my natural choice (still talking about cases ;)), but am I missing some good options? I did a lot of research the last weeks, so I basically know the US options like Gorillabox, Monorocket, Goike etc. Any further suggestions or ideas? 1k$ just for the frame (if I'd go with the monster base) is kind of a hard step to take.

Also, I've read a lot on Muffwiggler and I tried to register last week - haven't received a confirmation email yet. Does anyone know whether that's normal (e.g. synth nerd that checks each registration) or not (i.e. if it's automated I should have gotten an email a long time ago)?

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:12 pm
by samuraipizzacat29
The modular world case is the best bet. they're out of business though so you'd need to get one from ebay or the like.

I had no problem with the muffs registration process. have you tried to log in?

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:25 pm
by pricklyrobot
Thanks for the suggestions, all. Definitely some of the stuff I was already thinking about (wavefolders, spring reverb), and some I wasn't.

I'm waiting for the Stackcables to come back into stock at AH, for my mult-ing needs.

Of course now I've had a new idea. One of my favorite sounds is to run a guitar through the FM setting on my Bitrman. And I'm thinking it would be cool to replicate a similar effect in modular form. I don't think anyone makes a vibrato module (as I understand it FM is essentially really fast vibrato). But I'm thinking a pitch shifter (or maybe a frequency shifter, but their aren't many out there and they all seem pretty pricey) modulated by a fast LFO might work. I can get the 4ms Atoner in kit form for $125. Any thoughts on whether it could at all be made to give me the sound I'm after? Even if not, straight-up pitch shifting seems like a handy thing to have for processing.

Pflosi, I recall my confirmation from Muffwiggler coming pretty quickly, you should probably just try it again.

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:33 pm
by space6oy
to forewarn you, stackcables have been unavailable forever. best bet's a WTB thread. 's how i've landed mine.

i think my simple suggestion on your next modules would be something to modulate your wasp filter and another filter to pair it up with.

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:52 pm
by pricklyrobot
space6oy wrote:to forewarn you, stackcables have been unavailable forever.
Yeah, I have noticed that. I e-mailed TipTop about it at the end of October, and had this reply: "Stackcables are in production and a new batch is expected in about 5 weeks if no delays."

I guess there must've been some delays after all. ;)

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:59 pm
by space6oy
aside from intellijel it seems like there almost always are!

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:03 pm
by samuraipizzacat29
tip top is awesome though. they repaired my z3000 no questions asked even though I'm an idiot (put the power cable on backwards) :facepalm:

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:04 pm
by pricklyrobot
Yep, I waited forever for the Happy Ending kit to come back in stock. And I was looking at the MFB Dual LFO (before I got the Maths) but that seems to be perpetually unavailable as well.

Guess it's just the downside of small boutique companies.

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:10 pm
by space6oy
unavailable at analogue haven - drop them a line direct. that's how i've purchased my OSC-02, MIXER-OSC, DRUM-04 & 06. 06 they've actually discontinued though, i wanted to buy two and landed the last one.

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:13 pm
by pflosi
samuraipizzacat29 wrote:The modular world case is the best bet. they're out of business though so you'd need to get one from ebay or the like.

I had no problem with the muffs registration process. have you tried to log in?
Yeah, I've seen modular world. Looks nice, also the multiples / attenuators / switches seem very useful. Didn't know they're out of business, and a quick search does not really bring something up... Also, since that would likely involve expensive shipping I could also just go for doepfer, the standard case is not much more expensive. And then I'm back in the dilemma that - foreseeing as I am :) - I'd like to get the monster base... so any further thoughts on this are welcome!

About Muffwiggler: I tried to log in, didn't work. When I try to register again with the same information, I get a message that the username and e-mail are already registered. When I try to retrieve the password (cannot hurt to try) I get a note that my account is inactive and I should contact an administrator. Which is kind of hard to do, not being logged in ;) FAQ state also that in this case I should contact an admin.. :roll:

thanks guys!

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:26 pm
by space6oy
http://mwmodularworld.blogspot.com

also their second run of cases had a 1u panel with just multiples.

far as the other forum i'd give it a day & try again.

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:32 pm
by pricklyrobot
Hmm, looks like the Elby Mangler might be another one to look at along with the Atoner.

Any other pitch or frequency shifters (wonder why the Doepfer Freq. Shifter isn't made anymore) out there that aren't crazy money?

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:54 pm
by pflosi
space6oy wrote:http://mwmodularworld.blogspot.com

also their second run of cases had a 1u panel with just multiples.

far as the other forum i'd give it a day & try again.
yeah, it's sad they're closed...

about muffwiggler, it's been over a week since I first registered... but samurai was so kind to send me a pm.
pricklyrobot wrote:Any other pitch or frequency shifters (wonder why the Doepfer Freq. Shifter isn't made anymore) out there that aren't crazy money?
If you want FM (as stated before), you could just get a doepfer A-145/146 LFO to modulate the Wasp. They have Low / Mid / High settings, so go well into audio range. No CV in though... And why not simply an oscillator, e.g. the A-110? Relatively cheap and surely fun as modulation source. And you get a sound source as well :)

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:18 pm
by pricklyrobot
I'm looking to FM external stuff (pretty sure the Maths can already modulate the filter at audio rates) like guitars, so I'll want something that can pitch/frequency shift the incoming audio.

Re: Sticking a toe in the modular (Euro) waters

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:12 pm
by pflosi
Ok, I see. The only cheap thing that comes to my mind then is the digital effect module from flame:

http://www.schneidersladen.de/en/flame- ... ect-module

No CV though... Probably not what you're looking for in a modular...