Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

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Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by synthRodriguez » Mon May 16, 2011 6:13 pm

So what is really the snappiest, true analog, vintage polyphonic synth out there that can be actually be found and afforded?

Prophet 5?
OB-Xa?
Jupiter 6/8?
Memorymoog?

I want something that will go Snap, Pow!

Tired of my slow, microprocessor controlled analogs.
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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by Alex E » Mon May 16, 2011 6:31 pm

You should ask Trent Reznor about synths that go snap/pow/bang. He used to smash DX7's on-stage in the 90's with mic stands and other DX7's.
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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by V301H » Mon May 16, 2011 7:51 pm

Polyphonic Synths with less microprocessor control and more discrete circuitry tend to be bigger, older, and expensive. Some Synths in this category include Oberheim 4/8-Voice and OBX, Yamaha CS80/60/50, MemoryMoog, and Roland Jupiter 8. All of these can be found, however, as far as what's affordable depends on your income and what you are willing to spend. The cheapest Synth on your list will likely come close to $2000 with some selling for $5000 or more. To completely get away from microprocessor control a vintage Monosynth is about your only choice.
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Post by meatballfulton » Mon May 16, 2011 8:51 pm

There is a thing as too much snap you know...like when EG attack is 0 and opening the VCA causes a clicking sound. Heck, at some point your speakers won't be able to respond fast enough :?

Personally I think it's a hopeless quest searching for the snappiest envelope, but have fun along the way ;)
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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by Solderman » Mon May 16, 2011 9:17 pm

I'd say it's a close race between the Jupiter 8 and the Oberheim SEM 2/4/8 voice.

Snappy is kind of subjective, but some factors remain consistent. It has as much to do with the rate of change as it does how the module being controlled reacts, so also consider how wide the voltage sweep is, and whether the change is linear or exponential, and how the target module reacts to these. Not only that but consider psycho-accoustics(how you perceive a fast change versus a slower one) and how the signal is reproduced on your speakers or headphones.
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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by Rangoon » Mon May 16, 2011 11:22 pm

The Memorymoog will go "snap" and "pow" soon enough, but not in the context you're looking for...

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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by pflosi » Tue May 17, 2011 10:29 am

:lol:

as for "cheap" ones, the junos (6 and 60) have quite snappy envs (for a poly that is)

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Post by plikestechno » Tue May 17, 2011 6:35 pm

The last synth I think of when it comes to snappy envelopes is the Memorymoog. I'd say the 8 or the Oberheim for sure. Yamaha's are pretty snappy but not as so.
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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by ninja6485 » Thu May 19, 2011 8:08 am

the sh-101?
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...

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Post by pflosi » Thu May 19, 2011 1:24 pm

we're talking poly...

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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by Phollop Willing PA » Thu May 19, 2011 1:25 pm

meatballfulton wrote:There is a thing as too much snap you know...like when EG attack is 0 and opening the VCA causes a clicking sound. Heck, at some point your speakers won't be able to respond fast enough :?

Personally I think it's a hopeless quest searching for the snappiest envelope, but have fun along the way ;)
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Re: Wot's The Snappiest Synth - Bang -> Zoom

Post by shaft9000 » Thu May 19, 2011 9:49 pm

amongst polys ime the Sunsyn is fastest - modern design w/ discrete hardware EG - it does the ZAP like on Computer World/numbers easily; even faster if you want....,
but the JP-8 has the most 'pluck' which is the characteristic of an exponential attack w/ slight delay/hold a la minimoogD. [0V->max and back again; attack& sustain at/near the fastest setting, with a small fixed ~2-3ms delay at onset]. This plucki-ness gives the ability to 'mimic' acoustic instruments even easier than you can with the modular EGs: the Buchla/Cwejman/Serge/modcan-type speeds [sub-.5ms-attack-time class].

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