Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

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Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by gmeredith » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:58 pm

I'm thinking about getting one of these - not sure which yet. I've searched and read the multitude of posts about them - lots of good info, but not many seemed to mention in detail any tracking issues - the ones that did seemed to say the syb5 doesn't track well. I'm wanting to use it on a bass guitar and the clincher in the deal for me would be how well it tracks. Can anyone comment in detail about tracking issues with any of the sby boxes (including the Behringer knock-off one) and what they found that improved tracking if it was initially poor? How tolerant is it of playing style? What sort of things tend to make it glitch the most? How well does it track note slides? What about with a fretless bass?

Any other points/issues/virtues please mention also.

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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by cryabetes » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:21 am

I've got a SYB5 and it tracks fine if you've got a compressor in front of it. it's that volume threshold that'll cause it to mistrack. Noteslides I haven't had problems with and it tracked my out of tune guitar fine so I don't think fretless will cause too much problem.

You don't get much wiggle room as far as playing dynamics though, which was what sat mine square in the "recording only" pile. Sounds good though.

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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by Rick N Boogie » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:06 am

I have one too, and they only get a bad rap because some players think they can continue playing sloppily and it should still work. A good compressor in front of it helps, and good clean playing, too. Muting the other strings also helps. After all that, it's a decent synth bass effect, with several useable sounds. It will not however, come close to the sound, feel, or motion of a real synthesizer. That is exactly how I wound up on this site, be warned.
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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by gmeredith » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:59 am

OK that's some great info - compression - that makes sense, easy done. I'm also a pretty clean player and use a pick rather than finger player so I tend to mute strings naturally, so that works in my favour then. Dynamics - the small range probably isn't so much of an issue since the sounds I'm after are going to be for electronic dance type stuff with not much subtlety. Sounds like I'm talking myself into it, doesn't it?? :roll:

Regarding sounds, I've heard youtube demos and the sounds they were getting sound typical of what I was looking for, so again, it seems to be looking like I'll be parting with my money :lol:

Just got to decide which one - the 3 or the 5?? Maybe both!!

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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by cryabetes » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:53 am

If I remember right, the main difference is the 3 has triangle wave and autowah modes (in addition to saw/square/waveshape modes) whereas the 5 has LFO modes for the saw and square waves, and an expression pedal input for doing manual filter sweeps.

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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by gmeredith » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:16 am

Yes this is where I'm torn - I want the autowah mode AND the extra waveforms :cry:
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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by nathanscribe » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:23 am

Also, the 3 has white noise, the 5 doesn't. Get both!

That makes me wonder if they could be run in parallel and set to different octaves...

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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by gmeredith » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:24 pm

Parallel- now that's an interesting idea. I wonder if there is a tuning adjuster inside so that you could set one of them a fifth apart or something for chords??
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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by Rick N Boogie » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:55 am

That would be really cool. I have the 5, and the expression pedal input is quite a valuable option. Having both would be the total win, but I'd hate to NOT have that expression pedal.
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Re: Boss syb3/5 performance and tracking

Post by cryabetes » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:44 am

gmeredith wrote:Parallel- now that's an interesting idea. I wonder if there is a tuning adjuster inside so that you could set one of them a fifth apart or something for chords??
no but there's always Image

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