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Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:31 am
by th0mas
Stab Frenzy wrote:
Alex E wrote:
dzlvs8 wrote:I think playing Van Halen "Jump" on a synth is one of the gayest things you can do.
I completely agree.
What about sucking on a guy's d**k, more gay or less?
I think what they're saying is it's not dirty enough for 'em. They want it dirtier.

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:24 pm
by Solderman
Used to own a Jupiter 8, wouldn't recommend it for dirty. Seems to do sweet and natural much better, although with the filter open some of the upper harmonics did have a bit of grit.

The thing no one ever seems to point out is that with polyphonic, it's all fine and good getting "huge" or "fat" when you're just playing, but recording into a mix is a different story. You'll run out of headroom very quickly without thinning it out or compressing the life out of it.

I agree with the comment earlier about the JP6. Maybe it thins out with resonance and has some heavy-handed midrange, but the modulation possibilities make it a deep and fun synth to make noises on.

If you are using polyphonic synths just to make big brassy chords with the filter wide open and no vibrato, you're missing most of its usefulness anyhow. You could start by using oscillator sync, crossmod or even just setting the oscillators 2 or more octaves apart or one down a fifth. Only the really drifty VCO's are notably interesting when played together at the same octave. It's also helpful to drive the filter input if you want that dirt. You'd never get the latter from a JP8, I am certain.

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:04 pm
by walkathon
Been mentioned already on page one, but forget the AX80 as previously mentioned .. an AX60 truly might be what you want. There's something strangely rough and tumble about 'em.

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:08 pm
by zoomtheline
Ever heard of effects?
Cheap polysynth like a Crumar stratus through some nice guitar pedals?

Well, that's what I do.

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:40 pm
by madtheory
dzlvs8 wrote:The synth riff in Van Halens jump sounds exactly like a a weiner going into a...
Really? How do you know? :lol:

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:05 pm
by phesago
madtheory wrote:
dzlvs8 wrote:The synth riff in Van Halens jump sounds exactly like a a weiner going into a...
Really? How do you know? :lol:
Hey, he may just I fact be an authority on The issue! :lol:

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:57 pm
by Sir Ruff
Wasn't this dumbass banned ages ago? Why are are still on this thread?

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:54 pm
by rhino
This reply has been used before - maybe by me.

Why don't they build pre-set synths with the patch buttons labled with the title of the song that used that sound.
That may satisfy these morons who post: "What synth will give that (insert player or tune here) sound?"
Sheesh. Nobody says "I want to buy a car that will drive to Ohio." Or: "I want a TV that will show "Honey Boo-boo".

YOU'RE missing the whole point of playing a synthesizer. You use the controls to MAKE it sound like you want.
Of course, if the basics of sound creation are beyond your mental ability, this may require SOME LEARNIN'.
Maybe even RTFM.
Stupid to waste the near-infinite tonal palett replicating some schlock-y riff from the past.

Could not find this cartoon - thought it was "Farside". Seems to sum up this OP.

Dorky kid sitting at a desk with book:
"Unable to find a yellow highlighter, Daryl used a black marker to cross out the parts he did NOT want to memorize."

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:34 am
by pflosi
Sir Ruff wrote:Wasn't this dumbass banned ages ago? Why are are still on this thread?
+1000. The OP was banned in another "incident" IIRC. Just let the stupid thread die already!

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:34 pm
by Walter Ego
I know I'm late to the party here...but am I the only one who noticed that the OP extolled the virtues (power) of his Prophet '08 as one of his Polys? Pretty sure that's a DCO synth....

I'm a little miffed by that post anyway...I've found that the mid 80s DCO based boards sound dirty in general compared to much smoother sounding VCO synths from the late 70s. It's not hard to make something dirty with any number of early to mid 80s DCO synths, even without effects. Examples...Korg Poly 800, Ensoniq ESQ-1/SQ-80 (not much diff b/t DCO and wavetable with those, IMHO), Akai AX 73, AX 60, AX 80, etc.

It may only be because the technology wasn't as fully developed, rather than because it's DCO per se, but I've found these synths to have a particularly dirty sound. It might be that the filters got skimped on too.

Not sure where he was coming from on that one...maybe a teen with too much time or money?

Re: Need a Dirty Sounding Poly VCO Synth.

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:04 am
by Stab Frenzy
pflosi wrote:Just let the stupid thread die already!