A good effects processor

[Xces]

Hey there I've been looking around for an effects processor, but I am a little bit stumped on what I should get.
I've been looking at the KP Quad and OTO Biscuit, would those be good ones for me?
Here are some things that might help lower down the list
-I am on a tight budget
-I am getting my first one
-I plan on using mostly software
-I wanna be able to take it "out on the road"
-I like more creative and flexible things

[Hugo76]

I recommend you take a look at the new Korg MiniKaossPad 2. It's possible to record large samples directly to a memory card

[Xces]

I recommend you take a look at the new Korg MiniKaossPad 2. It's possible to record large samples directly to a memory card

Thanks a lot for the suggestion but I don't really see too much creativity with in it. I'd rather not use something that's a little more "preset driven" if you know what I mean.
Though I might take a look at some sound demos of it because it has quite a nice look to it.

[Sir Nose]

1st determine if you want something that does many different effects or one effect really well.

[Xces]

1st determine if you want something that does many different effects or one effect really well.

Well I think that many different effects would be good to have, but in reality I don't really care just as long as it's useful and I can do more then select effects. The Biscuit looks creative to me because it has some more unique features to it, but I don't know if it is the best effects processor for a beginner, which is why I thought of the KP Quad, and it has the ability to combine 4 effects in an easy way.
Right now the Biscuit is still in the lead for me

[Hugo76]

I have the Kaoss Pad Quad, and although it's very cool, I think I still would prefer a KP3 over it. I also have the
original MiniKp, btw. Remember that several of the effects are combinations.

[Xces]

I have the Kaoss Pad Quad, and although it's very cool, I think I still would prefer a KP3 over it. I also have the
original MiniKp, btw. Remember that several of the effects are combinations.

Several effects are combinations? You mean on the Mini KP, yeah I'd think that, but I'd much rather make my own combinations on a KP Quad. Like what I said before I'm not a big fan of just scrolling through effects, I wanna be able to do more with it's effects.

[GuyaGuy]

The Biscuit seems awesome but it's not really a full-blown multi-fx unit if that's what you want. It's a bitcrusher and filter.

[Hugo76]

@ Xces:
I get the point, but I'm only saying that although you can combine effects in the Quad, these combinations arent necessarily that mindblowing and 'original' as compared to the selection on offer in the KP3 or the Mini's. Personally, I would choose the Mini, in order to get more varied and interesting effects. My advice would be for you to test both, so you are confident you have made the right choice

[Stab Frenzy]

-I am on a tight budget
-I am getting my first one
-I plan on using mostly software
-I wanna be able to take it "out on the road"
-I like more creative and flexible things

The Biscuit has always struck me as an expensive one trick pony, seems like it wouldn't be the best choice for these criteria.

The Kaoss pads would probably be my pick for this; you can't edit them that deeply but the way the XY control, loopers and tap tempo interact leads to really interesting creative effects. Also you get a good choice of lots of different effects rather than just various kinds of distortion and a filter with the Biscuit.

If you're still into the idea of the Biscuit then think about the DSI Evolver desktop. It can do most of what the Biscuit can do, plus it has three delay taps, a more comprehensive sequencer and is a better synth. And it's cheaper.

A third option is that for the $550 that the Biscuit goes for you could get a selection of pedals that you could use in really creative ways, ie an EHX Holy Stain ($120), Small Stone ($78), Stereo Memory Man with Hazari ($220) and $130 left over for whatever else you want, maybe an analogue delay or whatever floats your boat. I just picked EHX stuff because they have a selection of things and it was easiest for me to get prices for them all with only one window open, there are lots of other bands that do good stuff. Playing with pedals is heaps of fun and they're definitely giggable.

I'd probably go with the KP3 though.

[garranimal]

I enjoy the KP Quad for integrating into a live environment and do lots of different things on the fly. In this way it has been an interesting creative tool for coloring sound and when necessary all-out mangling. I do find the possibilities of effect combinations to be inspiring. Hugo is right in that trying out these different units in person is a must before purchase.

[Xces]

-I am on a tight budget
-I am getting my first one
-I plan on using mostly software
-I wanna be able to take it "out on the road"
-I like more creative and flexible things

The Biscuit has always struck me as an expensive one trick pony, seems like it wouldn't be the best choice for these criteria.

The Kaoss pads would probably be my pick for this; you can't edit them that deeply but the way the XY control, loopers and tap tempo interact leads to really interesting creative effects. Also you get a good choice of lots of different effects rather than just various kinds of distortion and a filter with the Biscuit.

If you're still into the idea of the Biscuit then think about the DSI Evolver desktop. It can do most of what the Biscuit can do, plus it has three delay taps, a more comprehensive sequencer and is a better synth. And it's cheaper.

A third option is that for the $550 that the Biscuit goes for you could get a selection of pedals that you could use in really creative ways, ie an EHX Holy Stain ($120), Small Stone ($78), Stereo Memory Man with Hazari ($220) and $130 left over for whatever else you want, maybe an analogue delay or whatever floats your boat. I just picked EHX stuff because they have a selection of things and it was easiest for me to get prices for them all with only one window open, there are lots of other bands that do good stuff. Playing with pedals is heaps of fun and they're definitely giggable.

I'd probably go with the KP3 though.

Thanks a lot for this, I think I'll just get the KP Quad and since it's a little bit cheaper and if I enjoy it then I'll go up to get the KP3
Though I'll probably just end up dragging both with me in the studio and live performance