Recommend me a good ROMpler

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Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by ZeeOne » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:07 am

That's right; I'm seriously asking for rompler advice on a synth-geek site. I have standards, of course: even though I'm looking for something based around presets, most-if not all-of its parameters must be editable and it must have some realtime knobs for filter and envelope control...my price range is around 700 USD. 61 keys and nothing older than the mid to late 90s.

The ones that have seemed the most appealing so far:

Korg N5
Korg KARMA
Korg M50
Roland RS-5
Roland Juno-D/Di
E-Mu PK-6 Proteus Keys
Yamaha MX61

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by synthroom » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:15 am

Roland JD-800. It's got a few more knobs and sliders than your minimum requirement.
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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Ashe37 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:00 am

Korg Triton
Roland Juno G (not Gi)
Roland Fantom or Fantom S

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Hugo76 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:24 pm

I used to have a Yamaha cs6x which was quite good. Expandable as well.
I think I would try o find a cheap Korg Triton, though, if I were you

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by rhino » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:00 pm

Welcome to the board!

I'm a fan of the old Alesis QS series. Nice sounds, good effects, able to split and layer, etc.
I've seen QS6.1s go for under $300.00.
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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by silikon » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:26 pm

Quasimidi Sirius. You forget it's a rompler; it's quite fun to use and the sequencing and core soundsets are really well done.
Korg Karma. Expandable, predictable soundsets, but expandable, and has a wealth of shaping options that were and still are quite interesting.
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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Ashe37 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:17 pm

silikon wrote:Quasimidi Sirius. You forget it's a rompler; it's quite fun to use and the sequencing and core soundsets are really well done.
Korg Karma. Expandable, predictable soundsets, but expandable, and has a wealth of shaping options that were and still are quite interesting.
I'd go with a Triton over a Karma simply because of the sampler ability.

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by meatballfulton » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:20 pm

Yamaha MX61 is editable but only with software. I'm not crazy about that approach, I have owned hardware that outlasted the computers needed for editing! It's plastic with a very light key action (no aftertouch), good if you need something light for gigging but feels "cheap" compared to some others mentioned here. It does have USB audio/MIDI interfacing which older machines don't, useful for home studio or gigging with a laptop.

If you look at used machines you can probably find used Motif (original), Motif ES or MO for $700 all of which have better build quality, better keyboards and can be fully edited without a computer. The sound engines though are of an earlier generation than the MX, which has the sound engine of the Motif XS.

Reasons to buy Yamaha: pianos, e-pianos and acoustic emulations are much better than competition, more/better real time control features.
Reasons not to buy Yamaha: weakest synth engine in terms of modulation options.
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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Hugo76 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:38 am

Ashe37 wrote: I'd go with a Triton over a Karma simply because of the sampler ability.
Me too. Plus you can always get the Karma for Triton software if you really want this functionality

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Ashe37 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:19 am

Hugo76 wrote:
Ashe37 wrote: I'd go with a Triton over a Karma simply because of the sampler ability.
Me too. Plus you can always get the Karma for Triton software if you really want this functionality
(and its on sale, or at least was)

(KARMA for Triton dopes not work on current OSX)

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Hugo76 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:55 am

Ashe37 wrote: (KARMA for Triton dopes not work on current OSX)
That is definately something to consider when it comes to software.
Personally, though, I'd prefer having dedicated arp's in the synth, instead of Karma.
Triton has dual arp's

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 am

Of the Korgs in your list, definitely M50 because it is the newest/has the most up to date sound engine.
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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Ashe37 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:57 pm

Hugo76 wrote:
Ashe37 wrote: (KARMA for Triton dopes not work on current OSX)
That is definately something to consider when it comes to software.
Personally, though, I'd prefer having dedicated arp's in the synth, instead of Karma.
Triton has dual arp's

Its a matter of personal preference. KARMA can do so much more than an arp... but has a little less immediacy. (as a note, i have owned a KARMA keyboard and now have an M3)

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by stich » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:21 pm

rhino wrote:Welcome to the board!

I'm a fan of the old Alesis QS series. Nice sounds, good effects, able to split and layer, etc.
I've seen QS6.1s go for under $300.00.
So do you have a QS6 yourself? I have a QS7, but have done very little with altering the presets. I kind of prefer to just use what is there and do most of my synthesis on something else. Nice keyboard, I agree. I might try hooking it up to my laptop sometime, but that requires buying a serial cable to USB.

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Re: Recommend me a good ROMpler

Post by Hugo76 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:47 pm

Ashe37 wrote: Its a matter of personal preference. KARMA can do so much more than an arp... but has a little less immediacy. (as a note, i have owned a KARMA keyboard and now have an M3)
I must admit I haven't really had the time to understand how to program the Karma engine. But afaik it's not really doable on the M3 itself, it must be done via the software - which I don't like. But I'll give it another go latr this summer

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