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DSI party

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:47 pm
by monolith
1000th post!!

To celebrate I've got a few questions, all of them pertaining to DSI synths :mrgreen:

I've got an MEK and am considering getting an Evolver desktop to polychain them. Is anyone else here doing this? How's it working out for you sonically? Any flaws or bugs with polychaining?


Secondly, I'm thinking of a getting a new poly synth and am strongly considering the Prophet 08, but the feedback feature of the Mopho x4 seems quite appealing.
I tend to program warm fuzzy lofi kind of sounds, and though I've heard the 08 nail that vibe, I can't help but wonder if the X4 would be more to my liking.

There's not an x4 around nearby for me to try out, so if any users can give a little review or even share some sounds utilising the feedback I'd love to hear it as unfortunately there's not a great deal of youtube vids highlighting it.

Thanks in advance.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:02 pm
by phesago
Im currently using a PEK chained with a PE rack. It's wonderful. Pretty cheap too if you shop around enough. If you really wanted to poly chain your MeK, you could get a PE rack, and have a 5 voice! 8-)



The mopho is fantastic. A 4 voice is obviously going to be cool. A lot of people complain about DSI's sound, but with any synth, put the time into it, and you get the results you want. :) Just a matter of knowing your instrument.



Interestign quote form a dj friend of mine "people just dont know how to use their gear." The conversation came abotu when we were talking about how some people get caught in the buy/sell/try phase, and why so many people disregard these extremely capable and powerful tools. IDK might be off topic, but food for thought.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:23 pm
by samuraipizzacat29
I always found poly chaining slightly irritating. I can't substantiate that claim with real life evidence :lol: but my experience was not ideal iirc. Straight up poly isn't a big deal but programming splits and all that fun stuff gets cumbersome fast. I found I needed different voices much more than more notes of the same. Ymmv.

Oh and I was workin with a MEK, desktops, and a PER. Never a PEK. Prob had something to do with it.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:43 am
by phesago
samuraipizzacat29 wrote:I always found poly chaining slightly irritating. I can't substantiate that claim with real life evidence :lol: but my experience was not ideal iirc. Straight up poly isn't a big deal but programming splits and all that fun stuff gets cumbersome fast. I found I needed different voices much more than more notes of the same. Ymmv.

Oh and I was workin with a MEK, desktops, and a PER. Never a PEK. Prob had something to do with it.
i guess a few more button presses is cumbersome :P

I like that DSI made poly chain a bit better than moog, as saving a patch on one happens instantly on the others. My experience with moog hasnt been the same, but the manual saving of each wasnt a big deal even then.

Though what the pizza cat says about different voices being different patches is a serious concern. Multitimbral synths are badass, and opens options up both creatively and financially.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:51 am
by Stab Frenzy
I had a desktop Evo years ago and then got an MEK when it came out, had both together for about a week and used the polychain a little bit, it all worked great for me. There is an issue when chaining mono evolvers with poly ones, the output of the poly is lower to allow more headroom for the voices so you need to give them different gain levels in the mixer, this doesn't happen with two monos though, be they keyboard or desktop.

I haven't had a Mopho but I did have a Tetra for a year or two. I was not a fan, but that was mostly to do with the interface being too annoying to be fun to program, the keyboard versions would improve that. It had some annoying things like when you were in multitimbral mode the filter knob would sweep the filter of all voices, not just the one you had selected. I found this really annoying. I was also not a big fan of the overall tone of the synth, it did sound bigger and wider than a VA but it still didn't have the girth I want from an analogue synth. I replaced it with an Ultranova and apart from lack of osc -> filter FM I'm pretty happy with it as a replacement. I just think the analogue parts of DSI synths are a bit boring, I never really understood why the P08 and Mophos were popular, to me it's just an Evolver with all the good stuff taken out.

Anyway, you want a four voice polyphonic analogue synth? Have a look at an Analog Four. I just got one and I love it, it's as though Elektron read my mind and made a synth that was everything that I thought the Tetra should be. Obviously I didn't want the Tetra to be a Tetra, but I got it in a trade and had high hopes for it.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:51 am
by monolith
With DSI polychain is a different voice for each unit also a possibility?

Re: DSI party

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:16 am
by monolith
Stab Frenzy wrote:
Anyway, you want a four voice polyphonic analogue synth? Have a look at an Analog Four. I just got one and I love it, it's as though Elektron read my mind and made a synth that was everything that I thought the Tetra should be. Obviously I didn't want the Tetra to be a Tetra, but I got it in a trade and had high hopes for it.
I hadn't considered the A4, but I would want the one with keys which would get pricey. I haven't really bothered to check out its features or sounds before but how is the UI? The main appeal of the DSI synths is the knob laden panels.

This is a horrid question, but how would you describe it's overall sonic character? (I will check out demos as soon as I've got time though!)

Re: DSI party

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:29 am
by GuyaGuy
MEK=$800ish. Desktop=$400ish. For just a $400 more you can get a Poly Evolver keyboard which would cover your poly needs as well. Or for $1000-15000 an Evolver rack like phesago mentioned. Unlike Stab Frenzy, I really like the analog side of the Evolvers (as well as the digi side). But the MoPho/P08/Tetra architecture really is the analog side of the Evolvers plus a couple features here or there. Apart from the added polyphony I don't see much reason in getting more DSI. I'd suggest something that adds something new.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:59 pm
by monolith
There's not many other 2 osc poly options really, except for the A4, which having done a lot of listening doesn't seem too interesting to me. I'd love a PEK but they're not too common in Australia and more expensive than $1600 here.

Is the PEK discontinued? It's not on the discontinued list on their website (all the other evolvers are), but I can't see any for sale.

Besides the DSI synths and electron, are there any other polys I should look out for?

(Excluding junos and esq1)

Re: DSI party

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:15 pm
by synthparts
Try looking for a Prophet-600 or Chroma Polaris. They are the best analog polys you can buy under $2k...

Re: DSI party

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:33 pm
by phesago
Ill back up what stab said: get an analog4. Youll be happy you did.


UI of the a4 while seemingly daunting, is rather intuitive and easy. A common complaint about elektron devices is the learning curve, which i find to be a bit lazy and retarded. If you can type well, then taking 5 minutes to learn the UI(literally, takes very little time toget used too) should be easy for you. I think the UI is similar to the little phatty except more knobs and buttons. The sound of the synth is fantastic. I love multimode filter options and its multi timbral. Its a win.

Re: DSI party

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:25 pm
by megamanx
Another one for the Analog4. It is great, it sound very good and different from many synths. As phesago mentioned the filters options are excellent and I particularly like the effects, plus you can control your vintage synths with using the cv/gate. I never really got along with the octatrack when I used to own it, so I was a bit hesitant with the analog4 but it is very easy to use. Now if you don't plan as using it as your sequencer then it is even easier to use.