Arturia Jupiter 8V

Windreaper · Post by **Windreaper** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:04 pm

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/pro ... intro.html

Wootwoot, I thought Roland was against 3rd party (all) software reproductions of their classic synths, but apparently Arturia's offer was good enough

, can't wait to hear the result. Also, Arturia is finally going to release a hardware box (Origin) containing all the current softsynths.

dtime · Post by **dtime** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:34 pm

I'm also surprised too see that. Roland was always very strict about softsynth creations.

I'm not so sure if it's good that Arturia is the developer of a soft JP8 though. Their softsynths are good but not the best in the industry. Probably this will also require a dongle to work.

rdemon · Post by **rdemon** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:55 pm

dtime,

I'm curious which softsynths do you consider better than Arturia?

R

dtime · Post by **dtime** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:06 pm

rdemon wrote:I'm curious which softsynths do you consider better than Arturia?

Well, at least GMedia/GForce synths. Also Creamware although they haven't made any native plugins. I'd like to try WayOutWare's Arp2600 emulation and see how it compares to Arturia's.

Post by **shaft9000** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:14 pm

Huh? New Jupiter 8? Cool, maybe Roland's doin' something right for a change! Variphrase was sorta cool to stick into a keyboard, I guess...Oh wait....you mean it's another softsynth, uh...Golly....how inevitable. Ho-hum.

(goes back to sleep)

memo · Post by **memo** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:22 pm

dtime wrote:Well, at least GMedia/GForce synths.

I dunno - while I love GMedia's Minimonsta, the filter characteristic really isn't as accurate as Arturia's Minimoog. It sounds great, but not accurate.

I think Arturia nails the Moog filter sound, and overall are extremely accurate with their modelling. GMedia makes fantastic sounding stuff, but for a vintage re-creation, I think accuracy is what people want because they want the sounds without the cost/performance/reliability issues.

Post by **shaft9000** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:31 pm

Why did they call it a Jupiter 8V...it has 32 poly, not 8.
Why not call it a Jupiter32v ? Wouldn't that be even MORE impressive? Could it be....marketing?

But Howard Jones is endorsing it!!! so it MUST be great.

Hmmm....he hasn't cracked the top40 in a loooong time. I wonder if he needs the cash.

Does it come with IR309 chips so I can even more authentically re-create those Jupe sounds? Does it?...I reeeeally wanna know!!! 8)

Sorry if I come off like a j**k, but I've lived and learned enough to know that these VSTs are mostly a fool's game. I'm glad they are moving towards 'free' status, where they belong.

Dreamtronix · Post by **Dreamtronix** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:52 pm

If only Roland realized the market potential of a fully updated, true analog, brand new Jupiter 8....

Pighood · Post by **Pighood** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:54 pm

BOINGGGGG

kk994 · Post by **kk994** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:55 pm

Gorden Reid SOS caught them out skimping on the code:

"Arturia's marketing information states that 2600V has two filters: one that emulates ARP's 4012 filter, and one that emulates the ARP 4072, but this is not the case. Furthermore, the manual makes much of the equivalence of 2600V's 12dB-per-octave low-pass filter and that of the original synth, but that can't be right, as both the 4012 and the 4072 were 24dB-per-octave low-pass devices."

"By a happy coincidence, I was able to discuss this matter with Arturia at the recent Frankfurt Musikmesse and it turned out that, as I had suspected, Minimoog V and 2600V share blocks of common code. Arturia justified the use of a common 24dB-per-octave filter by suggesting that, as ARP had been sued in the 1970s for breaching Moog's filter patent, the response of the ARP 4012 would be identical to that of the Minimoog filter. When I suggested that this was not the case, they undertook to look into it and, if necessary, consider changing 2600V's filter."

Altough Gorden Reid seemed to be happy enough with this... Seems a bit off to me. I presume the J8V will be an all new thing but they do seem to have a lot of little bugs/inconsistencies and errors here and there. Kenneth Elhardt seemed to find a large number of bugs with the Moog Modular V. see listHERE

I like the Arturia stuff so I hope it's a goodun...

antilles · Post by **antilles** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:21 am

I love all arturia's softsynths, so this is really great news to me. I'm gonna buy this one for certain.

hugsnballoons · Post by **hugsnballoons** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:10 am

Dreamtronix wrote:If only Roland realized the market potential of a fully updated, true analog, brand new Jupiter 8....

sure nice, but then we hv to sell all our gear to afford it..

Post by **braincandy** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:29 am

shaft9000 wrote:Why did they call it a Jupiter 8V...it has 32 poly, not 8.
Why not call it a Jupiter32v ? Wouldn't that be even MORE impressive? Could it be....marketing?
But Howard Jones is endorsing it!!! so it MUST be great.
Hmmm....he hasn't cracked the top40 in a loooong time. I wonder if he needs the cash.

Does it come with IR309 chips so I can even more authentically re-create those Jupe sounds? Does it?...I reeeeally wanna know!!! 8)

Sorry if I come off like a j**k, but I've lived and learned enough to know that these VSTs are mostly a fool's game. I'm glad they are moving towards 'free' status, where they belong.

Well, you do come off like a j**k.

There are several other musicians who have offered testimonials/statements on their websites and I guess they're all desperate for money, too:

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/com ... rsers.html

Pighood · Post by **Pighood** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:42 am

I sold my JP-8 in 1999, and now I'm getting it back, minus the rear-mounted oven.

cl516 · Post by **cl516** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:51 am

IMO the gforce minimonsta sounds more like a bright SE-1X patch.

I always end up using the MinimoogV more, when i'm not on the Voyager rack.