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Post by CS_TBL » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:14 am

How does this count: an MSX2 from 1986 with an OPL4 soundcard from 1994? ^^

See what can be done with it (be me :P) *click*
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Post by pSYCREATOr » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:34 pm

@CS_TBL
Yep very nice :O))

The TBL in your Handle.. are you an The Black Lotus member? ;)) And your are a Demoscener like me... Breakpoint this year? :O)))
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Post by phloem » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:46 pm

Hey y'alls,

I have an Amiga 2000 here that I can donate (for the cost of shipping) to music. If somebody wants it just PM me!

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Post by CS_TBL » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:46 am

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Yes, TBL! And I quit parties ages ago. Scene died with the rise of 3d-cards and demos that became mere 3ds-players, if you ask me. Otoh, I haven't seen anything recent. I moved back to my MSX-roots again..
Actually the last 4 parties where I was involved in some production, the production won.. 2x mp3-music, 1x intro, 1x demo, but that was really ages ago.
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Post by pSYCREATOr » Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:30 am

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Nice to know :O)) For myself I'm still learning anything about Demoscene and Amigascene. But that's the way I want to go, I like it. Next party in a few days.. so much work left until then.. args.....

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Post by Tofuik » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:31 am

I have 4, C64s

2, C 128's (not entirely sure if they work, damn muddivers)

and an atari 2600 that I would like to use.


The 64's each have one different thing wrong with them so I might take the sids of out one to make a midisidbox type thing.


I also have some Apple II's if those can be used for anything.
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Post by KLAXON » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:37 am

Tofuik wrote:The 64's each have one different thing wrong with them so I might take the sids of out one to make a midisidbox type thing.
A splendid idea if you ask me.
.....i have some things that create and sculpt sound.

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Post by Tardis » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:47 am

CS_TBL wrote:How does this count: an MSX2 from 1986 with an OPL4 soundcard from 1994? ^^
See what can be done with it (be me :P) *click*
Very nice. The sounds you guys get out of these vintage computers is very impressive. I wouldn't know where to start... :?:
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Post by translucencecs » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:32 am

Well...

I can't speak for the MSXes, but with a C64, I'd start by getting either Prophet64 or Triad MIDISlave.

On the Amiga, OctaMED SoundStudio and a MIDI interface would be the easiest option for most straight music production, although demo programmers don't necessarily do it this way. You'll probably also want to get PC2Amiga to transfer samples and stuff to it, but that's not essential, just very useful!

Back in the day (1988-1999) I used to mix two synced Amigas (and a bunch of MIDI gear) live as my main act, with some pretty cool results... I got the idea from Urban Shakedown, who did almost exactly this on their stuff (most notably "Some Justice", which to the uninitiated, was a huge rave hit in the early 90's in the UK)

At one stage, my entire live setup consisted of an Amiga 1200, an Amiga 4000 and two Roland MC-303s, and (IMO!) it kicked a*s, which is one reason why I'm thinking of getting another A1200..!

BTW, if you plan to run OctaMED SoundStudio to its fullest extent, you'll either need an A1200, 4000 or 3000, or an older Amiga will need an accelerator card. SoundStudio does punish the CPU somewhat!

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Post by Tofuik » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:20 am

also for the c64 there is the synthcart or music maker (think thats the name) for really cheap music making, you can get a keyboard cover that goes over the c64s keyboard to make it look like an actual black and white keys keyboard..

my friend uses that with a paddle controller velcro'd to the side to use as a mod wheel
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Post by deb76 » Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:23 pm

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There was also the APPLE II which with 2 soundcards of Mountain Hardware transformed the APPLE II into numerical synthetizer 16 voices but without midi, it was Music System which I used since 1981, there was also Alpha Syntauri which used the same system but with a keyboard in complement.
I found in my documentation an article which summarizes the principle well on the Apple Music System : http://www.deb7680.com/documentation/Ar ... eII[1].jpg
http://www.deb7680.com/documentation/Ar ... I-1[1].jpg and http://www.deb7680.com/documentation/Ar ... I-2[1].jpg

I join 4 sounds examples which I recovered on my old magnetic tapes. The first result from a music for a theatrical creation in 1984 around the French poet Gaston Couté (1880-1911):
The walk of Gaston Couté

a military ringing

A country wedding
Lastly, of ambient noise. I wanted sounds which could point out space. They leave directly the APPLE II here but then I inserted them in Ems Synthi Aks then in an echo room :
ambient noise
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Post by eumir » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:21 pm

I own an Apple //e in working condition and I would really like to make some music with it, but I have no idea how. What can I do?

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Post by eh » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:31 am

if you want to see Octamed in action on a amiga

Check this out:



that's Dispyz. He makes his music on commodore computers and such.

also someone else worth checking out

Goto80:



he uses commodore computers and all that other goodie stuff.

ah, also Atari Teenge Riot comes to mind, they use to program their stuff on a, yep you guessed it, on an Atari:


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