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Live 8 is announced

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:05 pm
by Alex Hamilton
Ableton newsletter wrote:1. New in Ableton Live 8
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* New groove engine
Groove patterns can add life and swing to straight sequences. Live 8's new groove engine lets Live users apply groove patterns in real time, extract grooves from audio or MIDI sources, and uantize audio and MIDI in real time. It also comes with a new groove library.

* New warping engine
Live 8 introduces a new, more direct way of working with warping and some important Warp Mode enhancements. Live users can now warp audio events by adjusting the events on the timeline (instead of stretching and squeezing the timeline around the events). Beats Mode has been updated, there's a completely new Complex Warp Mode and it's now possible to slice audio files to MIDI tracks based on transients.

* Looper
A much-requested feature, the Ableton Looper effect is classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. Looper is set up for remote operation, so it's possible to record, overdub and more without touching the computer. Live automatically syncs tempo to the loops played ("first loop sync"), and managing loops is a matter of simple drag and drop.

* New effects
Live 8 includes five powerful new effects, each with a strong personality and serious "classic" potential: Vocoder, Multiband Dynamics, Overdrive, Limiter and Frequency Shifter. These effects obviously contain all the well-known aspects of these devices, but they really shine due to some innovative new features and enhancements from the Ableton labs. These are effects that are not only practical and easy to use but also inspiring.

* Workflow enhancements
Version 8 makes Live easier with a number of most-wanted enhancements and some deceptively simple detail work. These include real-time crossfades in the Arrangement View, enhanced MIDI editing, group tracks, multiple track selection, a screen magnifier and more.

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2. New in Ableton Suite 8
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* World-class sound library
Ableton Suite 8's library completely surpasses everything that Ableton has ever offered before. With the hard-working creative professional in mind, Ableton has put together a well-balanced and comprehensive tool set, including synthesis, real-world "Sound Objects," presets, grooves, templates and, above all, a wide-ranging set of beautiful sounds. No need to be quiet in this library.

* Collision and Corpus
Collision is a unique instrument for authentic mallet sounds and creative percussion. Co-developed with AAS, it uses physical modeling technology to reproduce real-world instruments such as xylophones, marimbas and glockenspiels, but also provides enough depth to create truly dramatic new instruments and sounds. Corpus, a separate effect that reproduces Collision's resonator section, widens the scope even further, giving you a far-reaching sonic continuum from authentic real-world sounds to exotic, experimental effects.

* Latin Percussion
Latin Percussion is a collection of acoustic percussion instruments such as congas, bongos, timbales, claves, shakers, tambourines and bells from the worlds of Brazilian, Afro-Cuban and African music. It includes a wide selection of clips and grooves, so you don't only get the drums, you also get the drummer. The package contains over 1GB of carefully sampled percussion instruments, 8 multi-articulation kits, 32 individual instrument groups, 50 clips of patterns and phrases, and a set of Latin grooves. The instruments feature realistic articulations, detailed velocity layers and additional features to ensure playability and stress-free integration with your hardware. Latin Percussion was produced in association with E-Instruments.

* More Operator: more power
Operator, Ableton's renowned do-it-all synthesizer, has been given a major overhaul. We opened up the hood, took a long hard look inside and did some serious hot-rod stuff. New filter types, more modulation routing options and additive wavetable synthesis with drawable partials make Operator more powerful and flexible than ever.

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3. Great expectations: the Ableton agenda for 2009
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* Share: effortless remote collaboration
Share Live Sets with others via the Web using this special feature in Live 8. Ableton's simple and intelligent solution for online musical collaboration streamlines the sharing process with easy sharing and loading, a simple system of setting access permission, speedy transfers and no issues with external plug-ins and instruments.

* Extend: Max for Live
Max for Live is a new product that puts the power and potential of Max/MSP inside Live. With Max for Live, it's possible to create completely new instruments, effects and extensions that go beyond the common and predictable and transcend the limits that conventional tools impose. The possibilities are virtually endless, from completely unique synths and effects, algorithmic composition tools or radical, new music machines fusing Live and controller hardware. Max for Live is a chance to join a society of makers and share ingenuity.

Max for Live is a joint development project by Ableton and Cycling '74.

* Touch: dedicated controllers for Ableton Live
Ableton and Akai Professional are proud to announce the APC40, a new hardware controller specially designed for Ableton Live. The APC40 features high quality controls for real-time mixing, remixing and production. 109 buttons, 16 endless encoders with LED rings, nine 45mm faders and a replaceable crossfader give musicians and producers complete control of Live's Session View, effect devices and virtual instruments. For anyone in the studio or on stage, DJing, making beats, running backing tracks, firing MIDI loops or triggering sound effects, it's time to kiss the mouse goodbye.


These three initiatives combine in interesting ways:

Live 8 + Max for Live: Swap extensions, effects and instruments created with Max for Live using the sharing technology in Live 8. So Max for Live owners also get access to any number of additional instruments, effects and extensions created by the Max for Live community.

Live 8 + Max for Live + APC40: With Max for Live, it's possible to customize the APC40; to turn its Clip Launch Matrix into a step sequencer, for instance. Live 8's sharing features allow users to share APC40 mods with other APC40 users. And because communication is two-way, this also means access to all the other shared APC40 goodies that the Ableton community has to offer.
Live 8 itself doesn't offer anything that would make me upgrade from 7; the Vocoder and Frequency Shifter should be cool, but not worth paying for. By far the most interesting thing, IMO, is the announcement of Max for Live - we knew they were working on something.

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:54 pm
by Alex Hamilton
I've had a quick look at the NAMM '09 thread (can you excuse me for not wanting to read through 6 pages of how Korg/Yamaha/Roland haven't released a latter-day supersynth that can make any sound imaginable and more, and 'damn the boutique stuff is just so expensive, why can't they make it for mere mortals?') and it turns out Live 8 got a quick mention there. Let's try to keep this thread as confined and tidy as possible. :D

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:07 am
by stephen
I thought Live 8 was some kinda Bob Geldorf thing...

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:48 am
by Hades
I'm very much looking forward to it !
the controller will be great,
the share function sounds superb (and I feel this should have been added by every sequencer company many many moons ago,
and it's a typical example of Ableton's openness to include the option that people who don't have Live can still work on your tracks in a temporary version of Live)
but the Max option will probably turn out to be the most fun in the end !!
imagine the possibilities !!

and as a friend of mine who's beta-testing Live 8 for the moment told me :
"that zoom function is just made for you !" 8) :lol:

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:47 pm
by snsr
I got the email from Ableton announcing 8 just a week after buying 7 :)

I'm particularly excited about MAX for Live - should provide for some serious mind bending!

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:31 pm
by plikestechno
Does anybody have any idea how much Max For Live is going to be yet?

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:36 pm
by pflosi
these news r out for quite some time...

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:23 am
by Hades
pflosi wrote:these news r out for quite some time...
from the 15th of january, to be precise.
that's when they sent out their newsletter announcing Live 8

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:55 pm
by pflosi
yep, so almost 1 month...

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:29 am
by Alex Hamilton
Doesn't mean you can't discuss what you think about Ableton's update, now, does it?

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:02 am
by Stab Frenzy
pflosi wrote:yep, so almost 1 month...
Conincidently, that's how old this thread is. Are you going to contribute to it or stop posting?

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:34 am
by pflosi
stop posting

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:20 am
by tunedLow
I'm stocked for 8 and max/msp. The video has me drooling over the possibilities - particularly for midi. I'd like to create a 16 step sequencer that will have a remix function similar to Future Retro's Revolution, where it keeps the 1st note the same and alters the others. I also want some way that I can put random notes into a sequencer and then nudge them into a given scale.

Groove patterns are going to be really nice - if I understand how they work. Is it basically that I could grab a pattern from, say, an existing audio sample of a drum fill, and then have a midi file with each separate hit assigned to it's on midi note, fired at the appropriate time? If that's it that'll be great.

The new workflow stuff is welcome as well - crossfades, assigning custom control keys - I really like to be able to have one hand on the keyboard and the other on the mouse without having to use my mouse hand on the keyboard, so that'll help. Grouping tracks will make things easier too.

One thing I really wish could be changed would be the ability to put the track info in the arrangement window to the left of the track instead of the right. For some reason it just bugs me to have it on that side. Similar thing with the scroll bars, they're on the left when I wish they were on the right. Nevertheless, this version is going to be a lot of fun.

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:35 pm
by Hades
you can already use Live as a step sequencer.
not as handy and detailed as you'd like, but it's possible in session view...
I got a detailed description somewhere at home, if you're interested, give me a yell, and I'll look it up for you.

Re: Live 8 is announced

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:17 am
by tunedLow
Ah no, Live as a step sequencer is no problem - what I want is that after I've entered my notes to be able to have functions such as randomize, alter lengths, alter scale, reverse etc.