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Re: fl hate

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:50 am
by Otoroko Heavy Industries
Roby31 wrote:Other noobs will make fun of them with their uber-leet cubase h2o sx2
Me, circa 2003.

Re: fl hate

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:38 am
by druzz
watch your mouths when you talk about FL people. i would never go back to it, but there will always be a place in my heart for that software . about then years ago when i was a stupid guitar playing teenager this was a revelation to me (i think it was version one) and it carried my egocentric musical madness until not so long.then i dicovered cubase sx3 and learned for a while after that switched to reaper wich i still use now. sometimes i still miss that step sequencer for beat creation. but what i dont miss is having to use so many windows constantly (step sequencer, playlist , mixer pianoroll ...)

personally i think its a good thing that it is easy to use for newbs and hobbyists. i know hobbyists who make music that is ten time more interesting than most big F?*&ING producers.

anyway if someone with talent , competence and inspiration use FL studio they will come up with great music that sounds good.

i look back to my FL studio days with nostalgia but i am happy it is over

Re: fl hate

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:15 am
by Roby31
Version 1 was never released, ten years ago you probably had version 2 or something :)

Re: fl hate

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:49 pm
by blavatsky
In my guitar-only days all I used/knew much about was audacity - raw wave recording, mostly for editing. Still good for some stuff, but bare bones as a DAW.

I got FL when I got into synths, used my Akai MPD24 to trigger samples, chopped up/built some cool drum breaks. Didn't care for the interface. The piano roll and chopper thing (Can't remember name) were pretty cool at the time.

Got reaper and didn't look back, great VST integration, better imo interface and much easier to build songs in the way I work.

FL gets crapped on a lot too (probably already said) because people will use the built in sounds/effects which can be pretty cheesy. Garbage in, Garbage out.

Re: fl hate

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:04 am
by druzz
Roby31 wrote:Version 1 was never released, ten years ago you probably had version 2 or something :)
possible , i think i was 16 years old or something , that was a long time ago.
FL started to be ok at around version 5. when this software started out it was for fun but now you can get serious results with it if you are willing to deal with its interface and limitation .


my friend bougth FL(yeah he actually paid for it) one year ago. i recently got him into REAPER and now he cant go back.

Re: fl hate

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:04 pm
by kurtz
I just purchased FL Studio 9 for my son, for the price, it is an amazing piece of software, great features, a bit 'noisy' interface, but once you get used to it, you can work it very easily.

Re: fl hate

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:42 pm
by StepLogik
FLStudio is incredibly powerful for the price. It gets a bad rap because its prone to crashing and the interface is so obtuse that its very difficult to learn. But its has tons of very useful plug-ins and tools.

I used it for years as a scratch pad and as a place to arrange songs (record my loops in hardware seq, export to FL for editing & arranging, export back to seq for final mixdown). It's MIDI timing is so bad that you can't use it as a main sequencer for outboard gear. It also does a lot of weird things (especially when you start a song) such as bursting out a ton of MIDI data (the present state of all controllers, etc). These shortcomings really keep it from becoming a "professional" product.

I was initially attracted to FLStudio because of the step sequencer and it's pattern based structure. Once Ableton came on the scene, I started using it more as my scratch-pad/editor because of the session view.

Now that Sonar Producer combines the best of both worlds (a truly great step sequencer and an ableton-like session view call "Matrix View) I'm actually thinking about upgrading my old Sonar 6 to 8.5 and switching back to it. Sonar looks really good on paper. If it has rock solid MIDI timing I might even consider abandoning hardware sequencing!

Re: fl hate

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:15 pm
by metrosonus
it's hated because it's probably the most cracked software out there and those 15 year old kid shaving fun with it are stuck in their forums swearing, trolling, not bothering to read the manual and demanding answers on how to make their beats sound better on their Circa 1998 Hp running 98's and clogged with napster and kazaa.

typically the hate isn't directed at the product, but the people that use it.

Re: fl hate

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:53 pm
by Dane_Xoth
metrosonus wrote:it's hated because it's probably the most cracked software out there and those 15 year old kid shaving fun with it are stuck in their forums swearing, trolling, not bothering to read the manual and demanding answers on how to make their beats sound better on their Circa 1998 Hp running 98's and clogged with napster and kazaa.

typically the hate isn't directed at the product, but the people that use it.

+1

Re: fl hate

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:55 am
by shaft9000
it also might help if they could shake the 'Fruity Loops' title.

it was amusing ten years ago, yes, when you'd plop little drum-loops along the ACID-lite timeline and say "wow that's hi-tech" ....all pre-Ableton days
for a DAW they need a better name than just FL ...that's it, it's all in the name! haha

Re: fl hate

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:48 pm
by Yoozer
The problem is in everyone else still calling it Fruity Loops, the software itself is just called FL Studio (maily out of wariness for a possible lawsuit by Froot Loops).

You could try to shake the name and it wouldn't help. People still have Hotmail e-mail addresses, though Microsoft desperately tries to brand it as Windows Live(tm) Mail or something.