Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

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Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:54 am

http://code.google.com/p/ctrlr/

any help, tests, tips issues are welcome, this is the next generation of ctrlrv3 that existed, but became obsolete. It's a work in progress more gear comming soon (Evolver desktop, Casio CZ100 and others). Most of this is not tested i worked with the Juno and Novation controller they seem fine. Some features don't work, but just cause i didn't have the time, the important stuff was to create a stable API for more controllers.
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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by mute » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:32 am

ive got a evolver desktop and a cz-1 so if you need any testing on those units let me know ;)

nice the source is public.. may have to take a looksee.

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:25 am

i've added an evolver design for now just GUI stuff, there is a screenshot if you have any suggestions i'd love some. the sequencer part will be a toggled component, also i'd like to do some upload waveform stuff, but later.
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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by skweeegor » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:16 am

Any chance for an Alpha Juno editor? The only one out there for PC doesn't work on Vista or Win 7, nor 64 bit OS's and its interface sucks.

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:18 am

there are two options, i'd need a midi spec for a alpha juno (if it's similar to juno106 then it should be fast), or you can wait for a WYSIWYG editor to be ready nut the latter will take some time.
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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by skweeegor » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:35 am

It's actually very similar to the Alpha Juno as it responds to sysex, not midi cc...but there are way more parameters on the Alpha Juno. There's a chart for the sysex here:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/sysex.php

I thought I'd just throw that out there...I understand it's a one man project and these things take time. An editor wouldn't be shabby either, i'd be happy either way as I'm sure others would be too.

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am

looks simple enough, you'd like sliders or knobs ? i'll make a simple one, if you know someone then provide some graphics and i'll use them, otherwise i'll use some of my own.
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Post by skweeegor » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:05 am

Don't have any graphics or know any designers. I liked the ones you used in that mockup you posted - Gekon.exe, but anything is fine really in case that's more complicated as long as they're not tiny...and I'd prefer sliders.

Feel free to pm me a paypal e-mail and I can send a few bucks your way as my thanks for your effort if you'd like. :)

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by toad » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:46 pm

Nice project!
Any chance of a Mopho editor? If you're already making one for the Evolver, it should't be too hard, right?
I know there's the Soundtower one that works fine, but a VST version would be great. And judging from various forum discussions, plenty of other Mopho owners would be happy about a VSt editor as well.
Besides, the GUI of the Soundtower editor doesn't fit on the screen of my netbook. But thats's just my problem, i guess...
Keep up the good work!

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:32 pm

The Alpha Juno editor is there, give it a try and see if it works, i dont have the hardware so i can't test it. if you need a MAC build give me a shout it's not a problem.

as for the mopho
i wanted a MOPHO anyways (the hardware) so i'll propably make one.
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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by skweeegor » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:52 pm

Just tried it and can't seem to get it to work. I can get it to accept midi in but it doesn't seem to be sending out. Is there somewhere to specify the MIDI output interface? I have a midi out on my soundcard, and a midi out on an m-audio usb interface. I tried hooking up the Juno to both interfaces to see if it defaulted to one or the other but it still doesn't seem to be sending any midi out. I found the preferences page where you select the midi channel...but when I use the on screen keyboard or move a slider it doesn't seem to be sending anything.

I tried some other tests to make sure it wasn't the Juno. I'm assuming the on screen keyboard would be able to send note data to any synth? I tried playing around with it + the midi channel setup to see if I could at least trigger another synth but same problem - doesn't seem to be sending anything out. I tried the same with the Juno 106 ctrlr and still couldn't send even any note data so I'm not even sure if its the Alpha Juno editor specifically or what/

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:09 am

in standalone mode i guess juce does not do midi output, please try the VST version, i'll get a midi output thingy up and running ASAP, the audio preferences in standalone mode are in top left corner "options" button.
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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by skweeegor » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:18 am

I tried the vst and its a similar problem...how do I route the midi out? It seems to be in a VSTi format so it only lets me load the VST into an audio track so I can't specify on the track where the midi goes.

In the preferences of the editor, where you specify midi channel, does that select the channel for input, output, or both?

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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by atom » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:14 am

i updated it quickly you can pick the midi device in the preferences (where the midi channel is), remember to keep a audio device open (output) otherwise the processing loop will stop.

in terms of VST id depends, each host does it differently, most of the drop SYSEX messages completly so this wont work at all. i use FLStudio and it works fine, i also fought a war with the developers of FLStudio to support SysEx messages and they work.

download it now and try.
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Re: Ctrlr - MIDI hardware controller for old and new gear

Post by skweeegor » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:52 am

Downloaded it but it looks the same...went to preferences and there's nothing there for selecting a midi device. The file sizes seem to be the same as the old version too. Any chance you uploaded the wrong one by mistake?

EDIT: Okay, looks like my browser was downloading a cached version for some reason. Got the new one and I see the MIDI input selection...trying now

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