how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

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how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby squatski » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:40 pm

what's happening to the breakbeat at 0:57 ? I hear this a lot in this era of music. Is it a delay? how did they do it?
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby Ashe37 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:03 pm

a thunder sample with a quad delay?
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby bionary » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:07 pm

It sound like pitch shifting without changing the tempo.
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby madtheory » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:17 pm

It's timestretched, probably a couple of times. This was usually done in the Akai, but it doesn't sound like Akai here. Maybe Roland? Either a ton of work/ time on the sampler, or a few happy accidents :)
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby Yekuku » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:55 pm

Ha, I know the answer !
Here is how the story goes:
This drum effect appeared for the first time in the jungle scene by Rufige kru - Terminator.
This track was a massive hit ( and still is) and most jungle artists tried to replicate this effect.
It was later known that Goldie, the mastermind behind this effect, used a pitch shifter on an Eventide H3000 to process the drum breaks.
Other artists (like 4 hero) without knowing goldie's best kept secret, experimented with timestretch found on samplers to reproduce a similar but different effect.
This back2basics track sounds like timestretch has been used.

20 years ago I had success replicating the terminator drum effect using a pitch shifter from a cheapo Peavey UltraverbII , and I thought that was what Goldie was using , but later rumours surfaced that he had used an H3000.

Here are the examples:

PITCH SHIFTER - Rufige Kru - Terminator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQFXneSROf8&t=2m26s


TIMESTRETCH - 4 Hero - Journey from the light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbBh9b5EKzc&t=1m49s
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby madtheory » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:01 am

A H3000, cool! There's nothing that box can't do. Eventide Band Delays plugin gets gets you almost all of the really cool pitch-filter-delay-infinite modulation options that box has.
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby squatski » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:53 pm

thanks guys! cool, right I'm gonna try and get an akai then, not sure which one. As for 'h3000' the prices were scaring me a bit :lol:
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Re: how is this Jungle/Hardcore effect done?

Postby madtheory » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:28 pm

No need for the hardware when there’s this:
http://the-akaizer-project.blogspot.com/?m=1
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