samplers piss me off (rant)

Yoozer · Post by **Yoozer** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:07 am

(tiny voice).. software?

Post by **wiss** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:10 am

removed by me

Post by **Maschinengeist** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:11 am

http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Manuals/ ... semax.html

roginator · Post by **roginator** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:32 am

you can try Dynacord ADD ONE with ADD Drive...I own one (beside EII, EIII, E4, PPG with waveterm and asr 10)
that is really good sampler to work with...

anyway...maybe you should open and clean yout EMAX..rubber keys are problematic with time but easy to clean!!!!!!

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gs · Post by gs » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:37 am

You have to pick the sampler whose OS and GUI you will be the most comfortable with. That's probably nearly impossible to know in advance!

I know. Have you been able to locate a manual (online in PDF format?) I'd do that for starters. Become completely familiar with all of the concepts associated with sampling, such as creating multi-samples, mapping samples to keyboard ranges, looping and crossfading - if you intend to get samples from other synths. I've done that a lot on my DSS-1, which is actually one that I'd recommend because it sounds great and it pretty much walks you through the sampling process. You gotta know what exactly you want it to do for you, in advance, but once you get through a short learning curve it's pretty easy. You already have a great 12-bit sampling synth that competes with my Korg, so I'd just get to learn how to do everything on the Emax, I'm sure it's completely capable of what you want it to do.

piRoN · Post by **piRoN** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:41 am

The only practical solution is obviously to buy more samplers. That's what I do.

Alexx · Post by **Alexx** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:46 am

Try some other samplers; find one that has better easy-of-use for you. (Try a more modern E-mu—EIV/EIV Ultra series—or an Akai).
Now is a great time to buy hardware samplers; loads of ones that cost thousands going for practically nothing.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:13 am

the Akai s series are great for that kind of stuff.

i'd also suggest EXS 24 in logic if you use logic

portland · Post by **portland** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:17 am

djfetus wrote:masch i have the manual in front of me. doesnt do any good, ;\

Well it doesn't matter where you put it, you have to open it up and read it for it to do any good.

Either that or write more clearly so people can understand the problem.

premieklovn · Post by **premieklovn** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:35 am

I used to have an AKAI S900 and it was a b***h to use as well. Digital menu's from the 80s are a b***h in general.

donaldm · Post by **donaldm** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:38 am

EPS, dude, so easy most of the users of this forum could figure it out.

Post by **30h5** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:39 am

donaldm wrote:EPS, dude, so easy most of the users of this forum could figure it out.

What's THAT supposed to mean?

hinotori · Post by **hinotori** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:42 am

i just picked up a CASIO FZ-1 for nearly nothing in my local treasure chest of an ignorant junk store .
the sign, again in japanese, read something like this :
"powers up, no sounds"
"ITS A SAMPLER ! . . an empty box" i thought and bought it for 1000 yen .

back on topic .

ITS GREAT .
i reccomend this machine .
mine has a very dim screen but am about to try to sort that with some help (see my next post if you know how to do it)

its hand drawn waveforms and synthesis options really open it up . and the filters sound great (in a unique way) .
its fun to use . menus and submenus but well designed , bug screen . . just my 2 yen . . . well, my 1000 .

get one if you see one cheap .

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:50 am

Have you tried the Roland S 7x0 samplers ? They're pretty easy to use with a monitor and mouse. Could be the thing for you. They're like a computer but with out the hassle. I used to have a S-750.

schmidi · Post by **schmidi** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:09 pm

unfortunately, the reason that hardware samplers are so cheap now on the used market is that they all are a b***h to program (some more than others). Software is definately much more intuitive, especially if you want to make full on instruments and not just one shot drum sounds/loops. I do understand that having a dedicated peice has it's advantages though, and everyone has their own work style.

That said, from what I've heard and experienced the most user friendly hardware samplers out there are: Emu E series (E5000, E4, Esynth, E4xt), Akai (S2000, S3000, S5000, S6000, Z4, Z8), Roland S series (S550, S760, S770), and Yamaha A series (A4000, A5000).

These represent the heyday of hardware sampling and are seriously discounted at the moment.