Other 8-bit samplers?

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Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by Frayo » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:39 pm

I know there is the obligatory Fairlight, but those are very expensive and very rare.
I also know of the Mirage, but I keep hearing about it being hard to program.

So I was wondering what other 8-bit samplers are out there?
Also, if there are more modern samplers capable of sampling at 8 bits, what are they?

Anyway, throwing it out there.

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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by nathanscribe » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:59 pm

Frayo wrote:I also know of the Mirage, but I keep hearing about it being hard to program.
I keep hearing about how aliens have taken over the world and how The Matrix was a highly philosophical treaitse on the nature of being... Well, whatever. The Mirage is a damn sight easier to program than my Akai (S3000XL), I know that much. And it sounds good. Just make sure to stock up on the right floppies.

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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by Yoozer » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:46 pm

E-mu Emulator II.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep00/a ... troemu.htm .

Most samplers allow you to change the samplerate but changing the bitrate is a bit (haha) harder.
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by tallowwaters » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:35 pm

SK1 and VSS30 are either 6 or 8 bit.


Another tip - mover further away from Asheville :lol:
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by meatballfulton » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:08 pm

The earliest Akai and Roland samplers are 12 bit, Casio's FZ-1 is 16 bit.

I can't believe a Mirage is easier to edit than an S3000...the Mirage has only a two digit LED display and everything is in hex arithmetic :shock:
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by Frayo » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:45 am

tallowwaters wrote:SK1 and VSS30 are either 6 or 8 bit.


Another tip - mover further away from Asheville :lol:
The SK1 is definitely 4 bit.

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Whats gross is that I stooped to the level of letting hiphop neanderthals come in to record, but I was rewarded with stuff to put in my smoke pipe that made me almost forget all about it.
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Anyway...samplers.
I wish I could afford an Emulator. Ebay drones seem to want like big bucks for their formerly $9,000 Emulator.
I do have a 12 bit Emax.....It makes me happy.
My DSS-1 has a bit depth function on it, and it goes down to 6 bits, but the problem is- it doesn't really sound like 6 or 8 bits. It sounds like the 12 bit samples at most of the time. There's nothing wrong the DSS, in fact it's in great (HEAVY, HUGE) condition. The filter on that poor thing is a joke at most, though.

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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by tallowwaters » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:11 pm

Was just giving you a hard time about Asheville. I live about an hour east of you.


I always sampled my sounds into an 8 bit sampler then ported them over to my Emax II if I needed that distinctive sound.
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by esqoner » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:16 pm

tallowwaters wrote:Was just giving you a hard time about Asheville. I live about an hour east of you.
hahaha
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by nathanscribe » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:57 pm

meatballfulton wrote:I can't believe a Mirage is easier to edit than an S3000...the Mirage has only a two digit LED display and everything is in hex arithmetic :shock:
It's really not that bad. My ailing memory tells me that Hex is used mainly for sample loop points, but many parameters are decimal or on/off. In fact, I find the reduced interface is OK given the relatively small number of parameters to edit. When I used to use my Mirage every day, I could remember all I needed to know without reference to any manual, but the 3000 is more complex and despite the 'better' interface, the depth is what makes it more hassle for me.

But, as with many things, horses for courses.

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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by synthesizerist » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:14 pm

Are you sure about the SK-1? I just got an SK-5 and the manual said it was 8 bit and I thought it was the same except 4 times the samples (errr 4 samples, I mean).

And Asheville has Don Howland and Greg Cartwright, you can't complain about that! I played there last year and it definitely had a strange atmosphere though- I've didn't know there was such a thing as hippy punks.

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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by Sir Ruff » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:01 pm

Frayo wrote: There's nothing wrong the DSS, in fact it's in great (HEAVY, HUGE) condition. The filter on that poor thing is a joke at most, though.
Ohh.. careful! I think most people seem to LOVE the dw8000/dss filter... I've heard people claim it's the best filter korg ever did. That would be the only reason the buy the DSS in most people's minds I think... maybe it depends on what you put into it.
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by tallowwaters » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:06 pm

synthesizerist wrote:I've didn't know there was such a thing as hippy punks.
Those are street pirates - stay away. That smell doesnt wash off easily.
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by Sir Ruff » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:11 pm

synthesizerist wrote:hippy punks.
Isn't that the same thing as a "crust punk"?
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by tallowwaters » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:00 am

Sir Ruff wrote:
synthesizerist wrote:hippy punks.
Isn't that the same thing as a "crust punk"?
I dunno. Do they smoke a lot of pot and beg leftover pizza off you when you leave Mellow Mushroom?
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Re: Other 8-bit samplers?

Post by Sir Ruff » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:45 am

tallowwaters wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
synthesizerist wrote:hippy punks.
Isn't that the same thing as a "crust punk"?
I dunno. Do they smoke a lot of pot and beg leftover pizza off you when you leave Mellow Mushroom?
oh.. apparently not. These would more likely beat you over the head with their 40oz. But whose to say what's one kind of punk versus another in these crazy times?
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