Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:10 pm

This is the KORG ELECTRIBE ESX-1 under the effects of buzz and other things, on a beach live act performance.
would love your comments about this Electribe performance.
Not a single sound comes from preset samples, I erase them all, and create my own samples, this is hard work....


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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by cartesia » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:00 am

under the effects of buzz and other things
What does this mean?

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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:37 pm

that was Balma and his broken english. booze
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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by Stab Frenzy » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:43 am

You guys are all getting noise cause you've got your gain staging all wrong. The ESX-1 has a really hot output, I got my convertors to clip (+4dB) with the volume on 12 o'clock and the tube about 9-10 o'clock. It really doesn't need to be turned up that loud to get a strong signal out.
Yekuku wrote:I own 2 esx and both are a bit noisy especially when the tube gain is turned up .
Without using any tube preamp and with the volume pot all the way up, the noisefloor reads -56 db and with volume+tube pots all the way up it goes to -38 db.
That's not how you measure the noise floor, the noise floor is the level you get when the gain is set so the signal is at 0dB. With both volume knobs all the way up for a start you'd be clipping the c**p out of the tube stage, and the signal level would be somewhere are +20-+30dB.

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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:13 pm

A tip to save memory...

For me, memory is an issue on the ESX1. Forces you to make the samplers shorter.

If you consider that a sample around 70,000 or 80,000 length on the ESX is taking too much memory:

Assign it to a track inside a pattern

Up the pitch to +38, that is a 12 notes escale aprox.

Resample it. Don'tt forget to put the autosample function on, at least on 1, but it's not strictly necessary.

Go to the sample screen, cut silences at beggining and end.

And put the pitch at -12.

This trick is old, I'm just applying it to the Electribe parameters.

You'll lose a sound quality on the sample. But it will take half memory than its predecesor.

Other thing:

I have noticed that a 5000 sample length is aprox 1/16 measure length. So when assigning the number of steps when editing a sample, have this number on mind

BTW
resampling and normalizing is sometimes s**t, Volume is excesive on resampled and normalized samples, too much difference with the other samples.
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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by Dj Pound » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:40 am

If you happen to have a turntable lying around, you can always sample in 45RPM speed, and than pitch the samples back down in the ESX, to get more out of the 4 minutes+ sample time limitation.
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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:26 pm

I'll start to give ESX programming lessons next week.

have a group of three guys, ready with their shinning new red electribes, je je je.

2 times per week, 2 hours each class.

I'm guilty of the good reputation of electribes between newbie producers here in CR....

I feel kind of responsable...
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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by Dj Pound » Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:12 am

Balma are you a music instructor? That has to be one of the coolest jobs in the world :!:
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Post by xibalba » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:46 pm

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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:22 pm

Dj Pound wrote:Balma are you a music instructor? That has to be one of the coolest jobs in the world :!:

Depending of your students. Some of them are too harsh, evil, or we don't do anything but drink and smoke weed during clases.

100% sure that you didn't read my post about the Vsynth project, that I made for one of my students, a trance-head italian Dj. he didn't like the sounds I made for him, and went to my house with a gun on his hand....

Sometimes is really dissapointing, when you see that one of your students didn't make it. Somebody said that there are no bad students but bad teachers, I always keep that in mind. I had o couple of students that never composed a single song, despite I taught them all the features of the synths, how to use a sequencer, how to develop a song structure, harmonies, MIDI etc....

My best student did all by himself. A nephew 12 years younger than me. He always watched me playing since he was a child, so that s**t got stuck on his young mind.

Plays 1000 better than me a piano, a guitar, and I gave him my old MC505 and a Yamaha W7, and he can play 2 hours consecutive, only jamming and improvising.
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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:29 pm

Why nobody told me about this? :x


This is fantastic!!!!!!!!!:

http://www.sharewareconnection.com/titles/esx-1.htm
http://www.filebuzz.com/findsoftware/Ko ... tor/1.html



1. It can erase -in few seconds- all the samples that are not being used on any pattern....

2. MONO SAMPLE editor. You can rename, traslate, set loop, number of slices, etc, really fast.
3. STEREO SAMPLE, you can convert a stereo into mono sample without having to access resampling.

3. PATTERN EDITOR: you can view in a glance all the parameters set inside a pattern, including notes, change them, rearrange your patterns, and view each sample used by each pattern.

4. you can drag samples into new projects really fast.

By sure, if you haven't use this software for your ESX-1 you're missing a powerful tool to improve your electribe sequences and samples.

I didn't know about this software, so I was a stupid spending hours, checking each pattern, with a pen and paper, to find out wich samples were not used in any pattern, in order to save memory. This takes 2 seconds with the software editor :x



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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by supermel74 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:24 pm

Balma, I can't find anything ESX related in your links. Are you talking about the ESX wave organizer?
http://skratchdot.com/projects/esx-wave-organizer/

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Post by balma » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:00 pm

Yes that's the link
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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by cartesia » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:03 am

I finally upgraded from 2x ES-1's to an ESX + SP404 and it's goin sweet so far..

The FX + multiple outs make a huge difference.. and the chromatically pitched parts of course

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Re: Why do U like the Electribe ESX1 so much?? TIPS

Post by balma » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:50 am

the available memory for samples on the Electribe is short. This issue is noticeable if you fill it with long samples.

so I use it with short but good sounds, and try not to force it for tasks that are not its speciallity.

Roland SP samplers, are great companions for the Electribe since, they are efficient for long phrases, and they come packed with good effects.

Normally, I sample several versions of a ESX 1 pattern, 4 to 8 measures. Then, I trigger them with the command station´s sequencer, and compose another ESX pattern along with the previous sampled pattern, adding more sounds.

Then, I sample that. Is a continuous process of feedback between both instruments being controlled by a sequencer.

Getting this software was a blessing from getting internet at home since a couple of weeks ago:P
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