Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

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Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by braincandy » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:26 am

I read in the EOS 4 manual that my E6400 Ultra is directly compatible with samples for other E-mus such as the ESI-series, EIII, EIV, etc. I don't mean to be dense, but I'm a newb to E-mu samplers. Does this mean that I can use the actual sample diskettes for those other samplers directly with the E6400 without any other accessories or software? I do plan on creating my own samples with my synths and other sound sources, but it would be nice to get a few disks to get up and running while I learn the sampling process. Thanks in advance for any insight/tips.
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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Ashe37 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:54 am

Sample diskettes, CDs, etc.The 'standard sample cd set' that came with the e6400 Ultra is primarily EIII CDs. The e6400 Ultra is a reduced- feature version of the EIV Ultra, and if you could find the parts can be upgraded to match it. The EIV DSP FX card works in it as well.

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by kazper » Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:23 pm

The E6400 is basically a E4 without any of the upgrades and backlit screen if memory serves me correct. (looks like the ultra had a BL included?)

It can be upgraded to a E4 by adding 128MB ram, additional 64V card, and Digital I/O and internal hard drive.

I'd be interested to know if you could just add the backlight EL panel or if it's missing the inverter. The E64 and E5000 also did not have a lighted screen for cost savings reasons.... (again off memory)

A general overview of options are found here:
http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/_inc/sp ... ynthid=932

Good machine, I have a E4 myself.

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Ashe37 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:56 am

My e6400 Ultra has a backlight....

good luck finding an additional 64 voice card and the digital i/o module tho.

128 mb, internal IDE hard drive (tiny, like 2 GB) etc. Great for the price i paid, haven't seen one in the same price range since.

By the by, which OS revision are you running?

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by braincandy » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:24 am

My eE6400 Ultra has a backlight as well. It only has 32 MB of sample RAM and 4.0 OS. I'm trying to figure out what to do about updating it to 4.7 as the only instructions I've found so far involves using downloading a utility that can read compressed files on my unit which will then allow me to upgrade:

http://www.emusonacid.co.uk/forum/viewt ... f=1&t=1251


But that software is for Windows PCs, not Macs (I have an Intel iMac). And I need to go ahead and try to find a CD-ROM SCSI drive and upgrade the RAM while I'm at it.
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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Ashe37 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:42 am

The RAM for these is cheap these days. I could make a set of update floppies for you if you don't find another way.

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by braincandy » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:17 am

Ashe, I'll happily reimburse you for your time/trouble. Check your PMs.
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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by braincandy » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:17 am

Just bought 128 MB of RAM as mine only came with 32 MB...and nothing else.

So, I'm considering which drives to purchase and came across some dual external hard drive/cd-rom drives:

http://cgi.ebay.com/18GB-SCSI-HARD-DRIV ... 3711wt_941

Does anyone who has any experience with these samplers recommend these over getting an internal IDE hard drive and then getting a separate cd-rom drive?
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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Ashe37 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:45 am

Those drives are gonna be old slow and noisy compared to putting an internal IDE in it.

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by braincandy » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:25 pm

Duly noted. I'll try to track down an internal IDE instead (I've seen a few) and get the instillation kit for it and then go with the external CD-ROM. This stuff is sort of hard to sort out when there's info on the E6400 online, but not really advice, recommended accessories, or best practices. It's funny how the name is "ultra" when you're working with a bare-bones unit where anything and everything has to be added separately (at least in my case). Thank god I only paid $90 for it.

I think I'm going to go with one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822152109

I read about it in this thread:
http://www.emusonacid.co.uk/forum/viewt ... ive#p11824

Just need to get the installation kit for it and a cd-rom. Any recommendations for SCSI cd-rom drives?
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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Hugo76 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:01 pm

Just a tip regarding RAM: when I bought a Yamaha RS7000 a couple of years back, I decided to get RAM on ebay. That wasn't a very good idea - I bought two pairs of RAM from two different vendors, and none of them worked. Finally I bought a used A3000 and transferred the RAM from that instead. So be ware when buying! Could be that the Emus aren't that sensitive, but nevertheless.

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Ashe37 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:56 am

I'm not sure if the sampler can address anything larger than a 20 GB drive. would be interested to know...

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Spadz » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:15 pm

Just a thing about the drives. Maybe some will not agree, but anyways, I have zip drives on all my samplers (2 E4 and a A3000). The reasons I did that are:
1- Noiseless. When you are not reading/writing, they make no noise.
2- It might only be 100mb, but the disks are easy to find for cheap.
3- A 100mb disk is easy to backup. Try that with an 18gb drive.

I managed to find one internal zip and found a way to make it take the place of the floppy on the E64. Not replace. You cannot disconnect the floppy from the E-mu. it won't boot.
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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by Ashe37 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:05 pm

18 GB = two dual layer DVDs.

And yes you can disconnect the floppy. Several people on emusonacid have replaced their floppy drives with CF card readers or removable hard drives.

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Re: Later E-mu sampler questions (E6400/EIII, ESI, etc.)

Post by braincandy » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:43 pm

Good to know about the card reader (had to google it was I'm not very familiar with computer hardware/peripherals). It seems the floppy drive is useless for anything other than OS updates as there's no way that many samples will fit on floppies.

The guy in that emusonacid thread stated that the 80GB Samsung drive worked well and was silent, too, so I think I'm going to go with that. Opened up the E-mu yesterday and it looks to be in immaculate condition inside and everything is clearly labeled. I just wish E-mu would have made the manual that details the physical locations of stuff inside the 6400 available online.
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