Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibilities

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by 0e0 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:25 am

Joey wrote:one thing though, does anyone have any sound demos of the v synth doing somethign taht isnt some cheesy sax sample or a jordan ruddess wannabe?

I want to hear some crazy noises


some of the sounds in this song...all the vocal processing.

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by 0e0 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:27 am

I have the a4000..it's awesome...the effects are really good..i would go for the a5000..just because it has better more effects slots.

however..for actually mangling a sample i think the eps-16+/asr is pretty bad-a*s with the waveboy disks. Also E-mu 6400 ultras are amazing (with all the cords)..if you already have a good effects processor.

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by aeon » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:04 am

Given the osc/sample features, the filter types with para eq, the mod routings, and the effects blocks with dozens of algos, many of which are true manglers - not just the usual effects, but ones with distortion, bit mangling, dynamics, lo-fi, stretch, and so on, it doesn't get better than a Yamaha A5000.

The E-mu Ultras do have cords (mod matrix) which can do some nice stuff, but for sound mangling they don't touch the Yamaha, even with the RFX expansion.


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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by balma » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:17 pm

0e0 wrote:
Joey wrote:one thing though, does anyone have any sound demos of the v synth doing somethign taht isnt some cheesy sax sample or a jordan ruddess wannabe?

I want to hear some crazy noises


some of the sounds in this song...all the vocal processing.

j

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Could you define CRAZY NOISES?


V synth can achieve a WIDE range of sounds.

But obviously that depends a lot of the owner. It provides you with a splendid user interface, and a lot of ways to perform tweaks on it. Lots of parameters to modify on the fly, a very good sampler that can do amazing stuff combined with the VA. Is a pretty decent and flexible hybrid.


Not so crazy than other VAs, but ringing samples with oscillators, and, specially, using the modulation sequencer that comes on the last OS update.

The intro arppegio is the V synth, also the piano lead, and the swept pads. . This track was recorded live on stage. Everything is V synth except for the drums. I activated MIDI tracks from 2 to 16 with the command station

Vsynth live performance 2008:



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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Dano » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:36 am

Isn't the V-Synth about the only hardware sampler with that allows you to stretch samples and also makes the formant adjustment so it won't get the chipmunk effect? (I'm a little out of my element here so I apologize if I'm completely wrong on that.)

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by tallowwaters » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:32 pm

Dano wrote:Isn't the V-Synth about the only hardware sampler with that allows you to stretch samples and also makes the formant adjustment so it won't get the chipmunk effect? (I'm a little out of my element here so I apologize if I'm completely wrong on that.)
Yes, but it doesn't work perfectly. The tricky part is how you "encode" the sample in the V Synth. Only one encoding algo will allow to play with the formant yourself (as assigning key scale is integral to getting rid of the chipmunk effect)

The only problem is, Roland gives you no clues on how to go about encoding, so it's all trial and error, for keyboard types samples anyways.
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Post by Malik » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:30 pm

Try an ASR-10. (ensoniq)

I have one, and it has a tendency to walk over my Emu E5000.

Only sampler I know that enables the creation of transwaves. On top of that, it has modular capabilities in routing wavesamples, badass effects (which are loadable), realtime wavelooping/scrubbing, a decent sequencer and a 2-track recorder.

The sound is nice and lofi. 90's edge, to my earsm

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Joey » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:33 pm

for the love of f**k christ does anyone have any samples of the AP synthesis in use?

I've asked on every v synth thread on this forum for a long time now
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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Malik » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:46 pm

Joey wrote:for the love of f**k christ does anyone have any samples of the AP synthesis in use?

I've asked on every v synth thread on this forum for a long time now

Why don't you try looking in the V-Synth Forum, instead:

http://forums.rolandclan.com/?p=show&ac ... _all&fid=4

I'm pretty sure there were examples on page 1.

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Dano » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:06 pm

tallowwaters wrote:The only problem is, Roland gives you no clues on how to go about encoding, so it's all trial and error, for keyboard types samples anyways.
I believe it when it comes to Roland documentation. Just as with the SH-32 where there is no description of the sampled waveforms nor will Roland provide that upon request. :?

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by tallowwaters » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:35 pm

It's typical Roland-ese. Poorly translated and dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. Most all of their manuals are pretty scant on any technical aspects of user technique.
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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Ashe37 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:04 am

Malik wrote:Try an ASR-10. (ensoniq)

I have one, and it has a tendency to walk over my Emu E5000.

Only sampler I know that enables the creation of transwaves.
Except that it isn't a 'sampler' (it can load samples but not sample them) a TS-10 can create transwaves as well.

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Malik » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:55 pm

Ashe37 wrote:
Malik wrote:Try an ASR-10. (ensoniq)

I have one, and it has a tendency to walk over my Emu E5000.

Only sampler I know that enables the creation of transwaves.
Except that it isn't a 'sampler' (it can load samples but not sample them) a TS-10 can create transwaves as well.

The ASR-10 isn't a sampler?
I think you have it backwards. The TS-10 can load and play transwaves, but the ASR-10 can load, sample and create.

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Ashe37 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:32 pm

Malik wrote:
Ashe37 wrote:
Malik wrote:Try an ASR-10. (ensoniq)

I have one, and it has a tendency to walk over my Emu E5000.

Only sampler I know that enables the creation of transwaves.
Except that it isn't a 'sampler' (it can load samples but not sample them) a TS-10 can create transwaves as well.

The ASR-10 isn't a sampler?
I think you have it backwards. The TS-10 can load and play transwaves, but the ASR-10 can load, sample and create.
No, i just wrote it backwards....

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Re: Hardware Sampler with the most sound f**k possibiliti

Post by Yatmandu » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:43 pm

maybe the new elektron octatrack?

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