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USB SCSI adapters and E-mu samplers

Post by gmeredith » Thu May 05, 2011 6:59 am

Hi everyone,

I've been doing a few experiments recently using a USB-SCSI adapter I bought, and connecting my E-mu Esi2000 up to a computer and doing sample loading via USB rather than installing a SCSI card and all that it entails. Has anyone else gone down this path as well??

Here is what I have tried so far:

- using an old Win98 machine, it works like a dream! I have a Castlewood USB-SCSI adapter. First I downloaded the drivers for it (for win98) and installed the drivers on the computer (before actually connecting it to the computer).

Next, I connected the SCSI end into my Esi2000, switched the sampler on. Then I plugged the USB cable into my computer, and it detected new hardware, and recognised it as a Castlewood USB SCSI device, and installed the drivers, no problems. Then it detected the sampler, and I installed the drivers for it. Once that was done, instant USB SCSI joy! No card installations or SCSI cables!

I uploaded some samples from Sound Forge into it via USB SCSI and made a few presets. Wonderful!
I then used a program called Xtrakk soundfont loader and loaded a big arse 20MB multi-sample tenor sax soundfont with about 100 samples in it directly into the SCSI mouth of the ESi2000 and it just hungrily gobbled it up and burped satisfyingly. Absolutely wonderful :D

Has anyone else experimented with such a setup? I am yet to try it out on Win XP/7 but I expect that there may be problems, as WinXP is not so SCSI friendly. Although I have heard of people getting it to work under XP. The Castlewood is no longer made, I got mine off ebay (with some help from Tallow - thanks!) but there is another one still being made that some have got working successfully also - a Ratoc U2SCX USB-SCSI adapter:

http://www.usb-ware.com/usb-scsi-adapter-u2scx.htm

- a bit pricey brand new, but see if you can get them on ebay for cheap.

I also found a freeware sounfont creator that enables you to make your sample bank presets/sample placement on the computer, save them to soundfont file, then upload them into the sampler with Xtrakk:

http://www.synthfont.com/

I will explore with XP/7 pretty soon. I'm hoping to eventually have a working system comprising of a netbook, the USB-SCSI adapter and the sampler, for a nice, portable editing and loading sampler setup.


Cheers, Graham
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Re: USB SCSI adapters and E-mu samplers

Post by Ashe37 » Thu May 05, 2011 10:36 am

I had a Iomega (rebranded Castlewood) USB-SCSI adapter with my e6400 ultra but never used it. It is now in the possesion of the guy here i sold the sampler to.

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Post by pricklyrobot » Thu May 05, 2011 2:17 pm

I'd be interested to try this with my A-3000 (I had it connected to an SCSI card in my PC, but had to take it out to free up a PCI slot for a dual-monitor video card), but a quick search reveals they're out of stock pretty much everywhere, and the ones on Ebay at the moment are all fairly pricey.

I'll add it to my list of things to periodically look around for, and will report back if I find one reasonably priced and it works with the A-3000 (or doesn't).
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Post by Ashe37 » Thu May 05, 2011 3:00 pm

pricklyrobot wrote:I'd be interested to try this with my A-3000 (I had it connected to an SCSI card in my PC, but had to take it out to free up a PCI slot for a dual-monitor video card), but a quick search reveals they're out of stock pretty much everywhere, and the ones on Ebay at the moment are all fairly pricey.

I'll add it to my list of things to periodically look around for, and will report back if I find one reasonably priced and it works with the A-3000 (or doesn't).

I got mine with a JAZ drive and three shrink-wrapped JAZ carts for $70 (Craigslist)

The trick is to look for USB JAz drives, most of them were SCSI Jaz drives and the USB to SCSI converter.

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Post by gmeredith » Fri May 06, 2011 12:30 am

Yes, the Castlewood adapter is the same, too - it comes as an accessory for the SCSI Castlewood Orb removable drives, so if you do an ebay search for "Castlewood Orb" you get more hits. Mostly the Orb drives and adapter don't go for any more than the adapter alone (the drives were trash, apparently) so you could pick up one that way also.
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Post by SCSICardReaders.com » Fri May 06, 2011 12:53 am

That's good to know, especially since the newer PCIe computers offer basically no SCSI interface options. But a reliable USB-to-SCSI adapter is a welcome thing fo samplers that support SMDI. I wish they all did!

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Post by gmeredith » Fri May 06, 2011 1:06 am

Yes, it seems the perfect match for an E-mu sampler and CF card reader (since once you load up the samples via USB into the sampler, you then have to store them somewhere in E-mu format).

Damn, I could get a job with you as a sales rep. I'm gooood! :lol:

Cheers, Graham
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Post by Ashe37 » Fri May 06, 2011 1:21 am

SCSICardReaders.com wrote:That's good to know, especially since the newer PCIe computers offer basically no SCSI interface options. But a reliable USB-to-SCSI adapter is a welcome thing fo samplers that support SMDI. I wish they all did!

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6816103045

PCIe x1 SCSI card

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Post by pricklyrobot » Fri May 06, 2011 2:58 am

And only ten times the price of a regular PCI SCSI card.:shock:
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Post by Ashe37 » Fri May 06, 2011 3:33 am

pricklyrobot wrote:
And only ten times the price of a regular PCI SCSI card.:shock:

That would be because SCSI is dead...

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Post by pricklyrobot » Fri May 06, 2011 3:52 am

Ashe37 wrote:
pricklyrobot wrote:
Ashe37 wrote:That would be because SCSI is dead...
Actually, I believe it's the death of SCSI multiplied by the death of PCI. ;)
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Post by gmeredith » Fri May 06, 2011 4:14 am

I just can't keep up with computers and the latest hardware anymore. It never stops. I suppose someone is going to tell me now that computers nowadays have COLOUR monitors and these things called "mouses".
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Post by Ashe37 » Fri May 06, 2011 4:16 am

Well, SCSI was replaced with SAS, and there are SCSI to SAS adaptors, but i dont know how well they would work....

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Post by SCSICardReaders.com » Fri May 06, 2011 7:52 pm

pricklyrobot wrote:
And only ten times the price of a regular PCI SCSI card.:shock:
Exactly! I stand by my previous comment - no real PCIe options for SCSI.

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