Where are the sampling drum machines?

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Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by Nistegmos » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:06 pm

What happened to any sampling drum machines? I can't seem to find any that have actual MIDI slave and master sync and also can sample and also have a drum machine style sequencer. Also looking for something that can do CD Redbook audio (44.1 kHz 16 bit stereo). Are the MPC's the only choice?

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by meatballfulton » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:27 pm

Don't look now but the hardware MPCs are discontinued :shock:

They are still shown on Akai's web page but US online dealers no longer have them in stock.
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by c-level » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:59 am

Nistegmos wrote:What happened to any sampling drum machines? I can't seem to find any that have actual MIDI slave and master sync and also can sample and also have a drum machine style sequencer. Also looking for something that can do CD Redbook audio (44.1 kHz 16 bit stereo). Are the MPC's the only choice?
id suggest maybe an Electribe ESX or ES

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by cartesia » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:48 am

ESX, MDUW, Octatrack..... think that's about it.

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by Ashe37 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:14 am

Rytm :D

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by sam » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:36 pm

WHAT....No more hardware MPC's..?
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by meatballfulton » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:08 pm

sam wrote:WHAT....No more hardware MPC's..?
Do dealers outside the USA still stock any? They've disappeared here, Maschine forced Akai's hand.

End of an era. :dj:
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by wiss » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:00 am

meatballfulton wrote:Don't look now but the hardware MPCs are discontinued :shock:

They are still shown on Akai's web page but US online dealers no longer have them in stock.
guitarcenter cut the prices on the used ones to get them off the shelf, used to be 30 to 40 on their website daily, not it's down to less than a dozen.
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by Infinity Curve » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:41 pm

On the plus side you can now grab MPC1000's and 2500's for cheap on places like craigslist as people move to Maschine. Put it this way, I got Maschine and ended up going back to the MPC2500 as I enjoy the workflow better.

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by kuroichi » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:48 am

I did the same with the 2000xl, I just wish someone would make a sampler that can separate from the computer and still have some functionality, but with samplers it seems everyone expects it to have everything at once as opposed to say the TR8 where it can focus on one sound.

At this point though, I can't think of anything a hardware sampler can offer anything technically, software wise over a computer. So in a sense, making something with the 'limitations' of say an MPC 60, would probably make more sense than something newer with computer comparable features.

I would still like to see a sampler with an eq, vcf and frequency rate control with a hardware switchable 12/24 bit input. Something that would allow you to alter the source and be creative before sampling the result. And while software is more capable, there is still a lot of ground not really covered due to people following the MPC template. I think integrating some interesting components to the sampling input would be a step forward somewhat and could still be applied to maschine, renaissance etc.
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by meatballfulton » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:49 pm

Maybe Roger Linn will finish up his sample-based version of Tempest before we're all dead.
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:07 am

kuroichi wrote:I would still like to see a sampler with an eq, vcf and frequency rate control with a hardware switchable 12/24 bit input. Something that would allow you to alter the source and be creative before sampling the result. And while software is more capable, there is still a lot of ground not really covered due to people following the MPC template. I think integrating some interesting components to the sampling input would be a step forward somewhat and could still be applied to maschine, renaissance etc.
The Octatrack kind of has all that stuff built in. Hasn't got the 12 bit input but has a lot of really nice sounding effects that you can resample, and the pitch changing algos are really nice.

Whenever I start thinking about what would be the perfect sampler it always comes back to just being an OT with a bigger interface, or an OT with an output per track running into a nice analogue desk. That thing really just kills it.

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by ellaguru » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:05 pm

@kuroichi

if pitch and very detailed sequencing are not problems, if money is a trouble, then there are also: zoom st224, boss sp303, roland sp404; for a better sequencing: roland sp606, boss sp505 and ensoniq asrx...in all those examples, resampling+fx is the creative key...

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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by meatballfulton » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:56 pm

ellaguru,

The problem with the ones you mentioned is that they are all discontinued which I think was the OP's whole point :(
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Re: Where are the sampling drum machines?

Post by ellaguru » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:02 pm

meatballfulton wrote:ellaguru,

The problem with the ones you mentioned is that they are all discontinued which I think was the OP's whole point :(
oh, that's right...until now i didn't had any problem to find them on the used/second hand market, but i understand what you mean, sorry
(in any case i forget the sp404sx or the sp555 -not the 505- wich are still in production i think...)

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