Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by tomorrowstops » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:05 pm

Yep, it was, Ninja....here's what I was reading:

'Regarding the sound, the Octatrack sounds a huge amount better than the MPC to my ears; more bottom end, focused mids and clear tops. The MPC sounds like mush in comparison, so if you like the sound of the MPC you might need to get to work with the lofi effects of the Octatrack to get it sounding the same. When I went from using a 2500 to the OT I was amazed at the difference in sound, the first thing I did was load the samples for my band's live set into it and I couldn't believe what a big difference playing back the same samples from two different machines could make. If you're after a more lofi sound like the MPC then the Octatrack has two effects on every channel to get things sounding exactly how you want.'

Anyways given the fact that I will be using actual samples recorded from the aforementioned drum machines, its probably all a moot point. Stab's comments just caught my eye, that's all. Either way, the OT is out because its just got too much going on and somehow they over looked throwing multiple outs on that thing!

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by wiss » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:16 am

Roland MS-1
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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by pflosi » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:15 pm

tomorrowstops wrote:Pflosi, why not the Blue MPC1000's? Isn't the only issue pads? Which can be replaced easily for like $40? Or are there other concerns?
AFAIK it's only the pads, yeah... So if you can find a very cheap blue one and don't mind the hassle, I'd guess that it should be fine. But don't quote me on it... ;)

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by ItsMeOnly » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:48 pm

Yamaha SU10? SU200

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by tomorrowstops » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:57 pm

The MS-1, SU10 and SU200 are limited to stereo outs only, which I'm afraid just isn't going to cut it. I'd like a minimum of 4 outputs - even if its a set of stereo outs + 2 assignable ones (like the MPC1000).

Thanks for the suggestions though!

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by pflosi » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:35 am

tomorrowstops wrote:I'd like a minimum of 4 outputs - even if its a set of stereo outs + 2 assignable ones (like the MPC1000).
The 1000 is stereo + 4 assignable :thumbleft:

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by tomorrowstops » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:56 am

Right of course ....I've been looking at wayyyy too many spec sheets...

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by tomorrowstops » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:09 pm

Annnnd the MPC1000 wins. Just found one for a great price, and in mint condition!

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by Chewy » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:59 am

Nice!

I've never owned one, but if you find yourself wanting different sequencing options or just want a change, you may wanna try JJOS. I've heard some good things about it

Hope it suits your needs well, hardware sequencing is awesome

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by pflosi » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:27 am

You definitely want to install the free jjOS immediately if it's not on there, yeah. I still need to buy the paid version...

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by tomorrowstops » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:13 pm

Yeah, I think I remember putting that on the last MPC1000 I had. Oh and Pflosi, don't be mad, but I got a blue one!

Apparently its in mint condition, no issues with pads. But worst case scenario, I can upgrade them!

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by pflosi » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:19 pm

Well that explains the "great price"... :thumbright: Yeah see how you get on with it, otherwise replace the pads.

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by ninja6485 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:39 pm

Congrads! I'm sure at this point, a lot of the people that own blue ones have probably replaced the pads already anyway, so you might luck out. What exactly is the problem with the pads? Do they become non responsive, or like deteriorate into goo or something?
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...

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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by Sexor » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:59 pm

The MPC1000 is surely the way to go! I've been using a blue and red one live since 2007. Finally mustered up the courage last week to splurge f#%&# $250 on the pad upgrade!!!

Akai is a terrible company with 0 karma points. Too bad they make some things which I can't live without for my live work. Making users pay so much for their own manufacturing mistakes, come on! And don't get me started on the MPX16 again!! They have made no effort to right that mess. Oh, and while we're on the subject, their stock OS for the MPC1000 is c**p. It took a japanese hacker to make the thing live up to its potential. I'm hoping something like that will happen with the MPX16, because on paper it's great, but awfully implemented.
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Re: Super Basic Hardware Sample Playback Machine

Post by Sexor » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:02 pm

ninja6485 wrote:Congrads! I'm sure at this point, a lot of the people that own blue ones have probably replaced the pads already anyway, so you might luck out. What exactly is the problem with the pads? Do they become non responsive, or like deteriorate into goo or something?
They simply stop working. I've been using effectively a 14 pad MPC for the last few years, and now recently the pads have started going out fast, one by one.
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