Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

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Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

Post by ppg_wavecomputer » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:14 pm

Hi all,

I was approached by some folks whose friend recently passed away. They are in the process of liquidating his studio, and apparently many of his instruments have been sitting in a corner, fully flightcased but neglected. Among them is an E II+. I have never owned one myself and would like to know whether there are any test routines to find out how functional it still is. No idea whether a library is included though.

Any idea what functional units are worth? How much can one realistically ask for a broken unit?

I'd like to help them find a good home for the instruments.

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Re: Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

Post by synthroom » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:51 pm

I don't follow prices that closely, but it seems like they are running about $1500 and up in the US for working, and depending on what's wrong, $1000 and less.

There are Memory and Scanner test disks that you can get on ebay most any day.

The things that seem to go out on them, in no particular order, are floppy drives, memory, LCD display/backlight, and quite common, power supply, sticky buttons.

They are easy to open, undo the screws on the bottom and slip the case off and set it down behind the back of the chassis. You can leave everything connected and test some things out with it in that "service" configuration. Test the PSU and make sure you have good voltages on everything. The voltages are +5, +15, -15, and +12. (+12 is used only for the 5.25" floppy drive).

I think all the chips (there's like 175 IC chips in there) on the mobos are socketed, so take a few minutes and gently press the chips into the sockets (ground yourself on the chassis before doing this). It's common for the chips to wiggle up in the sockets with thermal cycling over time, and reseating them helps get a clean connection with the sockets.

The EII+ should have 1 meg of memory so load samples into it to test it out. You'll probably hear glitches if there are issues with memory. I have just an EII (no Plus) but I think on the Plus, you have to load samples into two banks - one bank for the first 512K mem and the other bank for the second 512K. Here's the procedure for loading from disks:
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/630424 ... 139#manual

There are two kinds of disks - Perf and Lib. The Perf disks will load up and take you to a preset that you can play, the Lib disks are just sounds with no performance info, so it will seem like the disk is broken... But you need to load in the sounds on them individually, and assign performance info to the samples, so don't think somethings wrong if you try to load a Lib disk and things don't "work".

If you get it, plan on getting a HxC floppy emulator for it and be done with floppy disks.

The buttons can be gently pried up and the caps removed. There is a metal contact in there that gets tarnished so get a cleaning cloth (i.e. old t-shirt) and polish the metal up. Clean the contacts in the button as well (try 90% isopropyl alcohol and cotton swab) and put them all back together and they often work after that.

They are great sounding machines - well worth finding it a good home!

A great resource for these is here:
http://eiiiforum.com/index.php
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Re: Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

Post by nvining » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:38 pm

One of these was being sold on reverb.com recently for $1900 or so. I think it was overpriced at that.

Shipping from Germany is probably a nuisance, but I wouldn't mind one. PM me if you're looking for a buyer.
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Re: Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

Post by synthroom » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:31 am

If the front panel decal is in bad shape, there's a guy in the USA that's currently printing replacement decals. I think he would be happy to sell you one!
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Re: Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

Post by ppg_wavecomputer » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:44 am

Thanks for all your responses so far, much appreciated.

I can't try out the Emu myself as it's located 600 kilometres from my place, all I can do is assist the current owner when putting the unit through ist paces. I'm not intending to buy it myself as this would be too much bulk, and my space is *very* limited.

The owner/seller is not keen on shipping the Instrument around the globe, even though it's flightcased. He is hoping for a local sale or for someone to pick it up in person.

Thanks all,

Stephen
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Re: Emulator II+ : What to keep an eye on?

Post by synthroom » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Local pickup is a good idea as those socketed chips are known to wiggle loose when shipped. Simply reseating them can fix those issues.

I drove a bit over 200 miles to pickup mine. (Which is not that far out here in the western USA...)
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