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V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:24 am
by 30h5
If I already have a V-Synth and Elektron sequencing capabilities, how redundant would an octatrack be if I wasn't going to be sequencing a lot of midi gear? What I am curious about is if the sampling capabilities of the octatrack and v-synth overlap to such an extent that getting an octatrack would be redundant to the sampling and sample manipulation capabilities my v-synth already has as I am considering getting one. Thanks!

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:20 am
by Stab Frenzy
They're kind of similar in theory, but quite different in practice. The OT sequencer is very integrated with the sample engine (as you probably know from the MD and RYTM), which means you can do cool things like have record events in the sequencer so a track can record samples while the sequencer is running and stuff like that which nothing else can do. As someone who has owned both of those, I don't think they're redundant at all. I like the sound of the OT timestretch better than the VS too.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:53 pm
by madtheory
Stab Frenzy wrote:I like the sound of the OT timestretch better than the VS too.
I love the timestretch on the VS. Do you know of any decent demos of the OT timestretch? Like, recorded from the line output of the OT, not via a mic.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:42 pm
by 30h5
Thanks Stabby. I was thinking about getting rid of my v-synth because I never use it and had thought that I would use an OT if I got one. I kind of had a change of heart and figured I should spend some time learning it because I know it's capable and versatile, but I never really clicked with it when I bought it 6 or so years ago. So, I am still trying to figure out what to do. Maybe I'll get an OT anyways... :D

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:05 am
by Stab Frenzy
madtheory wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:I like the sound of the OT timestretch better than the VS too.
I love the timestretch on the VS. Do you know of any decent demos of the OT timestretch? Like, recorded from the line output of the OT, not via a mic.
Nah I don't really listen to demos. I just know from using them both a lot.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:28 am
by madtheory
Oh I don't doubt you! I was hoping you knew of sons good examples, or might offer to post one yourself... :)

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:41 am
by cram1960
30h5 wrote:Thanks Stabby. I was thinking about getting rid of my v-synth because I never use it and had thought that I would use an OT if I got one. I kind of had a change of heart and figured I should spend some time learning it because I know it's capable and versatile, but I never really clicked with it when I bought it 6 or so years ago. So, I am still trying to figure out what to do. Maybe I'll get an OT anyways... :D
I'll trade you my OT for your V-Synth.

It's my 2nd go round with the OT, and I just don't get it. The way it works (UI) just seems non-intuitive to me.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:19 am
by madtheory
That's saying something, given that the V-Synth is not exactly immediate.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:42 pm
by john21wall
Any specific advice for the novice

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:28 am
by 30h5
cram1960 wrote:
30h5 wrote:Thanks Stabby. I was thinking about getting rid of my v-synth because I never use it and had thought that I would use an OT if I got one. I kind of had a change of heart and figured I should spend some time learning it because I know it's capable and versatile, but I never really clicked with it when I bought it 6 or so years ago. So, I am still trying to figure out what to do. Maybe I'll get an OT anyways... :D
I'll trade you my OT for your V-Synth.

It's my 2nd go round with the OT, and I just don't get it. The way it works (UI) just seems non-intuitive to me.
Thanks for the offer, but I actually grabbed an OT off ebay and I am going to give it a shot and keep my v-synth for now.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:17 am
by Stab Frenzy
madtheory wrote:Oh I don't doubt you! I was hoping you knew of sons good examples, or might offer to post one yourself... :)
OK I've dug back through my tracks to find some examples of things that used the OT heavily, they were recorded as songs though so they aren't trying to do anything in particular to show off what it can do, I was just using it to make sounds I liked.

This track:

https://soundcloud.com/worng/pinned

Has all drums and the keyboard loop coming from the OT, with some modular played over the top.

This one:

https://soundcloud.com/worng/the-knock

Has everything except the melodic parts coming from the OT (the basslines were sequenced by the OT on the modular but was run through the OT and was recorded all in the one pass as a live take) no external effects, all from the OT.

All this going back over old stuff makes me wish I hadn't sold it now. :( I haven't really recorded anything much at all since I got rid of it.

Re: V-Synth + Octatrack redundancy

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:00 pm
by madtheory
Those sound really great. Thanks. Is there any timestretching anywhere on those?