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I'm thinking of getting a Kawai K5000

Post by White » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:27 pm

Can somebody post some sound examples of it, thanks.
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Post by crystalmsc » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:12 am

Here' and a whole lot more other demos:
http://www.boduns.starlink.ru/music/DEM ... %20k5000w/
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Post by minime123 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:10 pm

the k5000 is a very interesting complex synth. its somewhat thin sounding. its also very time consuming to program excellent sounds on from scratch. i use sounddiver software with mine and wouldnt even think of programming it without it. i recommend it but only if you understand what it is and what it isnt.
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Post by White » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:56 pm

Thanks for the replies.

I like the fact that it has knobs and thus makes it look fun to program.

I bought a DX7S and didn't understand it. But, the only way to understand what's going on is to program a synth.

Does that make sense?
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Post by minime123 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:41 pm

using the knobs alone you wont entirely understand the k5000, but youll be able to make some nice edits of the presets. in order to really get into it youll need to use sounddiver or dive into menus (yuck)
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Post by zingo » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:17 pm

My Kawai K5000s has been a clear disppointment and I haven't used it in a single project. First of all, I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of people that really understand it. Loads of menus and micro-managing envelope and filter settings await you. I'll sell mine when I find the right buyer as I'm just not prepared to invest the time in it - I might have reasoned differently had I felt that the presets gave me something special to hope for, but they're almost uniformly boring to me and moreover most of them actually use PCM samples to get any life to the sound. The knobs on my machine at least don't seem to react quickly enough so you always get stepping when moving them even moderately fast. To me the synth just promises a lot more than it delivers.

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Post by minime123 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:29 pm

i can see zingos points. i suppose im one of "the handful" he mentioned who understands and appreciates it. i know quite a few others who like it as well, but its generally a synth for the serious programmer.
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Post by White » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:26 am

Is it more complex than the Roland D50? Is the sound thicker than the Roland D50?
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Post by Bitexion » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:58 pm

It is a completely different synth from the D-50. They are in different worlds when it comes to programming. The D-50 bases its sound on 4 layers of short samples, sampled waveforms or analog recreations. It has an engine that, on one side is a full VA synth with oscillators, filters, envelopes. And on the other side 100 samples of attack portion of real instruments and a big bunch of sampled digital waveforms. You can mix and match these in the 4 elements that make up a full patch. Or you could use less than all 4 elements and get more polyphony as exchange.
You could for instance do a superfat analog 4 oscillator sawtooth sound. Or mix the analog sawtooth sound with a sampled of a human voice.

The K5000 uses additive synthesis, which is a totally alien process really. Where you adjust hundreds of harmonics and parameters in each part of the sound..

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Post by t.o.t.s. » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:11 pm

k5000 tracks:

hit www.myspace.com/tots and lsiten to the first track, "American Way". The lead synth that comes in I think 16 bars into the song is a k5000.

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on www.cdbaby.com/tots you can find a demo for a track called "The Most Appealing Thing". The bassline for that is a combination of a darkstar, dr.660 and a k5000. They are all pumped through a DOD metal maniac and constantly cancel each other out. Might not be too useful for ya' but it's a k5000 nevertheless. :)

I like the synth a lot. Nothing else sounds like it and the filter screams like a banshee
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Post by minime123 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:13 pm

Is it more complex than the Roland D50?
yes

Is the sound thicker than the Roland D50?
i feel the d550 has a fuller sound
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Post by phloem » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:24 pm

I just couldn't get my head around programming the K5000, never tried the software editor though. I've downloaded some nice patches from the K5000 Yahoo group (and downloaded some crappy patches too). The preset patch "creatures" is a pretty good example of the amazing sounds the K5000 is capable of. It's too bad I don't know how to attain those sounds myself. Anyways my K5000r is listed in the For Sale section.

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Post by White » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:14 pm

How many presets does the K5000 have? I also read that the banks are A and D, is that right?

Anyway, not long now, I should be buying one within the next week.
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Post by White » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:04 am

It's finally here! The Kawai K5000 has landed! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by White » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:11 pm

I'm getting some amazing sounds out of my K5000! Lot's of programmability, that's what I like! 8)
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