Smell coming from synth
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Smell coming from synth
Let me preface by saying I'm admittedly a bit neurotic, but I am worried about the smell coming from my Korg Mono/Poly. I'll play it for about a half an hour, typically using the arpeggiator heavily (I've noticed that when I use the arpeggiator for a period of time the board has a tendency to heat up quicker, for whatever reason), and get an acrid and fusty smell that looms in the air. I am concerned that I may be breathing in toxins. I wonder if something is burning off of one of the circuit boards (metal or glue perhaps?) but have not been able to isolate the problem. I've owned other vintage synths and have never had this problem. Has anyone had a similar experience, or have any good insights or suggestions?
Thanks,
sas
Thanks,
sas
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Re: Smell coming from synth
the mono poly definitly gets HOT when you let it turned on . mine does it , i think its normal . about the smell ... yeah you are probably inhaling toxins. but thats ok
you are inhaling toxins when you walk on the sidewalk.
if you had it serviced recently it migth smell like circuit cleaner .
if you have good reasons to think something is burning inside maybe you should bring it to a technician . or at least open it up (while its unplugged ) an look for something burnt or that has leeked (brown goo or other s**t).
old heating electronics often smell funky , so if the smell is not that strong maybe you should not get too worried

if you had it serviced recently it migth smell like circuit cleaner .
if you have good reasons to think something is burning inside maybe you should bring it to a technician . or at least open it up (while its unplugged ) an look for something burnt or that has leeked (brown goo or other s**t).
old heating electronics often smell funky , so if the smell is not that strong maybe you should not get too worried
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Re: Smell coming from synth
Actually, you could have a problem.
As electrolyte capacitors get old they dry and leak. The fumes that are created as a result are toxic, and if there are several electrolyte capacitors drying and leaking or you sleep in a room full of such synthesizers it could be a health hazard. Another thing worth mentioning is the soldering on the PCB and through-out the synth most likely contains lead, and any damage (such as excessive heat or short-circuits) applied to the lead can cause it to create lead fumes, which as I'm sure you know is quite toxic. As a final note power supplies, depending on their configuration and components, can emit smells as they reach the end of their life. Sometimes this can be a crucial warning sign, as depending on their design some synths get really screwed up if the power supply goes while it's being played, where as others can have it blow out and will work fine after it's been replaced.
I don't know enough about the Mono/Poly to say if it has any problem components in it, or if the smell you're describing is truly an indication of a problem. You also don't state whether or not this has always been a symptom of your Mono/Poly, or if it has come to create these smells over time, which seems like important information to me. As a general rule of thumb however if I feel I need to ask for advice on something I don't fully understand, that could involve my health or the health of my gear, I get a professional opinion. In other words: get a check-up from a reputable repair technician.
Edited: Corrected spelling errors.
As electrolyte capacitors get old they dry and leak. The fumes that are created as a result are toxic, and if there are several electrolyte capacitors drying and leaking or you sleep in a room full of such synthesizers it could be a health hazard. Another thing worth mentioning is the soldering on the PCB and through-out the synth most likely contains lead, and any damage (such as excessive heat or short-circuits) applied to the lead can cause it to create lead fumes, which as I'm sure you know is quite toxic. As a final note power supplies, depending on their configuration and components, can emit smells as they reach the end of their life. Sometimes this can be a crucial warning sign, as depending on their design some synths get really screwed up if the power supply goes while it's being played, where as others can have it blow out and will work fine after it's been replaced.
I don't know enough about the Mono/Poly to say if it has any problem components in it, or if the smell you're describing is truly an indication of a problem. You also don't state whether or not this has always been a symptom of your Mono/Poly, or if it has come to create these smells over time, which seems like important information to me. As a general rule of thumb however if I feel I need to ask for advice on something I don't fully understand, that could involve my health or the health of my gear, I get a professional opinion. In other words: get a check-up from a reputable repair technician.
Edited: Corrected spelling errors.
Last edited by 101 Force on Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:50 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Smell coming from synth
Thanks for the replies.
@101Force
Thanks for all the helpful info. You raise a good point about my not disclosing the timeframe of the emergence of the smell, and unfortunately I am unsure about the exact time when I first noticed it. I suppose that it had always had a slight fusty smell to it, but thought that this was due to it being an old unit.
I just plugged my Mono/Poly in today to check it after being out of the country for a while, and after not having a chance to play it in about 4 or 5 months--(I usually keep it in storage at my parent's place in dry room when I am not using it). I do remember that the last time I did play it the smell that I described was quite strong leading me to turn it off and unplug it. However, I remember playing the instrument months before that without using the arpeggiator and not smelling that scent at all (I don't know about other Mono/Polys but I find that after using the arpeggiator for a while, my board really heats up), which leads me to believe that the smell is somehow tied to the arpeggiator.
In the end I suppose I will have to get it checked out.
@101Force
Thanks for all the helpful info. You raise a good point about my not disclosing the timeframe of the emergence of the smell, and unfortunately I am unsure about the exact time when I first noticed it. I suppose that it had always had a slight fusty smell to it, but thought that this was due to it being an old unit.
I just plugged my Mono/Poly in today to check it after being out of the country for a while, and after not having a chance to play it in about 4 or 5 months--(I usually keep it in storage at my parent's place in dry room when I am not using it). I do remember that the last time I did play it the smell that I described was quite strong leading me to turn it off and unplug it. However, I remember playing the instrument months before that without using the arpeggiator and not smelling that scent at all (I don't know about other Mono/Polys but I find that after using the arpeggiator for a while, my board really heats up), which leads me to believe that the smell is somehow tied to the arpeggiator.
In the end I suppose I will have to get it checked out.
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Re: Smell coming from synth
I could help you to inhale some toxins, if you let me 

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save some for sequentialsoftshock....that might help "inspire" him in song writing struggles!balma wrote:I could help you to inhale some toxins, if you let me

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Re: Smell coming from synth
Nothing beats the smell of good coffee and a CS-40m on a Sunday morning.
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Yours too, eh? My Bit 99's keyboard smells worse though.nvbrkr wrote:Nothing beats the smell of good coffee and a CS-40m on a Sunday morning.
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Re: Smell coming from synth
Have you found a schematic where you could maybe look at the arpeggiator path? Maybe one of the capacitors at that point is failing. If the arp is turned off, it probably bypasses that section so you wouldn't smell it. Just a thought. But, most vintage/analog synthesizers will tend to get hot. Even my DrumTraks (which is sample based) gets hot as h**l.
Or else Balma will go crazy.balma wrote:I could help you to inhale some toxins, if you let me
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man I"m trying to clean cat pee smell out of my friend's house that was destroyed by renters with 10 cats, I wouldn't worry too much. if you smelled the cat pee or the toxic chlorine gas created when mixing bleach with cat pee (ammonia) you wouldn't be too worried and besides getting good and high off the fumes will make it sound like the speed of the arpeggiator is being modded by and lfo 

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Re: Smell coming from synth
That, my friend, is FUNK.