80's Synth Pop

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80's Synth Pop

Post by NCChao1268 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:23 pm

This is a little tune I wrote and recorded; the synths used were the Kurzweil K2000 for the repeating bass/chord sequence, Alesis SR-16 for the drums, Roland JX-8P for the bells and brass, and a Juno 106 for the rest such as the pads and analog sounds. No effects were really used except for some reverb from the mixer.

Feel free to listen and let me know what you think.


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Re: 80's Synth Pop

Post by haaplaj » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:33 pm

Got the 80's beat right. Some timing issues maybe drums vs the bass. Could be a bit shorter, a little more "compact".
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Re: 80's Synth Pop

Post by NCChao1268 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:07 am

Thanks, I was really going for the style. As far as the timing, I was pretty sure it was on time since I used a midi clock for the internal sequencer. Maybe I should've turned on the quantize or something.

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Re: 80's Synth Pop

Post by gcoudert » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:22 am

It's the brassy syncopated chords. They need to come forward a bit because of the slowish attack, so that the envelope peak (where the attack changes to decay) falls on the beat. I think the bass may be slightly out indeed; MIDI clock does have its flaws. Nice track nonetheless.
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Re: 80's Synth Pop

Post by Tekhed66 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:47 am

NCChao1268 wrote:Thanks, I was really going for the style. As far as the timing, I was pretty sure it was on time since I used a midi clock for the internal sequencer. Maybe I should've turned on the quantize or something.

-Nathan
Hi Nathan

The drums and bass sequence aren't locked together so it's missing the beat of the bass+kick ... if you listen carefully from about 57sec onwards, you can hear that the bass timing drifts from the drums so it sort of weakens the foundation of the track... everything else you record on top of that (such as the brass stabs) will sound even more out of time than it probably is.... 80's pop is very rock solid (well... as solid as you could get way back then) so syncing the bass and drums is very important.

What was your master clock in the setup?

If you are recording into a DAW, you can visually check where the midi notes or recorded waveform sit on the timing grid... the midi notes should fall neatly on the timing grid (eg. on the beat) and so should the waveform ... you can hopefully drag and drop the waveform by very small amounts to line up with the timing grid and tighten up the timing.

Hope this makes sense!!??!!

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Re: 80's Synth Pop

Post by BackwardsSamurai » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:22 pm

I know my SR-16 has the timing off. A looong time ago I recorded a 112 bpm track, but I had to slow the drum machine down to 111 bpm since it didn't match up with my DAW.
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Re: 80's Synth Pop

Post by NCChao1268 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:41 am

Unfortunately I don't have the capability to do midi note data too much since I don't have a DAW (dang it), I use old school Audacity. I would best set the quantize to 100% on the K2000 sequencer and the note grid to 1/8th notes since the bass and chord sequence are in eighth notes. Or even rerecording the sequence again. Hopefully quantize will fix the timing issue.

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