16 slider midi control boxes?

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16 slider midi control boxes?

Post by Zamise » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:06 am

So far my only choices seem:

Phillip Rees C16 (Out of production, rare, none on the bay)

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Peavey PC-1600 or 1600x (Out of production, sought and favoring, but can't win when pop up on bay)



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Kenton Control Freak (Still in production I think, kinda expensive, aint seen any on bay)

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That Behringer BCR2000 looks kind of neat in an earlier thread, but its all knobs, I'd prefer something with 16 sliders and small like the ones I've shown here.

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Post by daddio » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:42 am

Don't forget the Doepfer Regelwerk.

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Post by Zamise » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:12 am

Ah yeah that looks like a really cool and impressive slider box, first 16 for me would be for velocity on those channels, then 8 extra for Res & Cut etc would be nice. If I can get a used one maybe, looks pretty expensive otherwise, so I'll still keep an eye out for one. Thanks!

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Totally hot linking those images :twisted:

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Post by hageir » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:53 am

^^
all those you mentioned :)

plus (only 8 faders, though they can be linked together..)
Behringer BCF2000
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maybe you can find a MIDI mixer controller with 16 faders?
that's a little ridiculous though :lol:
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Post by tom Cadillac » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:44 am

I,v just bought (yet to arrive) a roland ef303. One of the reasons i got it was coz I hope to use the 16 sliders for midi control of locked up old digital synths. Mine was cheap, plus you get a whole lot more stuff with one of these. It might come soon and if it does I'll try and remember to let you know.
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Post by Altitude » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:30 pm

I would hold out for a PC1600 if your looking to go beyond the basis CC type stuff, for SYSEX it's about as good as it gets

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Post by hageir » Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:59 pm

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Post by Twiddler » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:25 am

Lemur, of course. You know you want it!! 8)

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Post by Twiddler » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:31 am

Pocket Fader looks wonderful, I never saw it as I've seen it today before. :oops:

CME Bitstream 3X has caught my eye since I read a great review in SOS a few months ago. I was thinking of getting the novation keyboardless one, but the bitstream seems nicer, more programmable and flexible. I've never had a knobby midibox before so I have no idea what I am talking about though.

It's not at all what your asking for, so don't waste your time on these links:
http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/pr ... _front.jpg
http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/pr ... eam3X.html

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Post by MrHope » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:18 am

If you don't mind knobs there is the Evolution X-Session (M-Audio). NOT the X-Session Pro, but the older X-Session:

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I have one of these.

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Post by Zamise » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:20 am

Pocket fader looks like page says sold out, does look neat, I'll have to keep eye out for one of those.

The others look neat too, but I would like at least 16, not 8, sliders. I may have to consder one of those though.

Thanks for listing more alternatives for me to look at guys. A Lemur, oh yeah in my dreams I do have one ;)

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Post by crystalmsc » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:39 pm

The PC1600x is nice, specially since it got a lot of presets for some popular synths. But it has no free editor. On the other hand, the Kentron Kontrol Freak got a free editor and also a lot of supported gears. Also seems like, it was built as a successor of the older 1600 line when it was released.
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Post by Zamise » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:58 am

Finally, I just won a Peavey PC-1600, hope it'll do the tricks I want it for...
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Post by aeon » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:39 am

The first time you remotely edit something via sysex and make that device sing, you'll know you made the right choice.

I put off getting it for years, but when I got my PC1600x, I realized so fast I should have done it years before! And it is built like a brick.


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Post by desdinova » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:00 pm

Doesn't the PC1600 also have an analogue-style sequencer mode?
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