The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by xpander » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:46 am

droolmaster0 wrote:I'm curious - would this book be helpful with an sy99, or is it too dx specific?
anything that applies to the DX7 will translate well to the SY77/99, you just use a single FM element.

my book of choice is chowning's book:

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Summa » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:15 am

When playing around with feedback on carriers, 0Hz with (a little trick) modulated Carrier/Shaper Phase combined with the additional Operator Waveforms, the TG77 opens up a whole new type of FM the DX7 can't do and those books don't cover...

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by hfinn » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:58 am

I paid $100 for the book and am not disappointed. I have a DX5 and am considering also in my insanity of getting a DX7. I want to understand FM synthesis as well as I understand subtractive.

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Joey » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:28 pm

xpander wrote:
droolmaster0 wrote:I'm curious - would this book be helpful with an sy99, or is it too dx specific?
anything that applies to the DX7 will translate well to the SY77/99, you just use a single FM element.

my book of choice is chowning's book:

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xpander, what synth/fx box is that behind the book?

i thought it was an fx unit at first, but then I saw that it has VCO's...
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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by xpander » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:34 pm

Joey wrote:xpander, what synth/fx box is that behind the book?

i thought it was an fx unit at first, but then I saw that it has VCO's...
they're two Lexicon "Super Prime Time" delays, like those used on Michael Jackson's Thriller. they're awesome, they work like modular synth modules, tons of physical control & cv inputs on the back. seriously!

i haven't confirmed it yet, but mine likely belonged to Jerry Goldsmith.

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Joey » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:12 pm

xpander wrote:
Joey wrote:xpander, what synth/fx box is that behind the book?

i thought it was an fx unit at first, but then I saw that it has VCO's...
they're two Lexicon "Super Prime Time" delays, like those used on Michael Jackson's Thriller. they're awesome, they work like modular synth modules, tons of physical control & cv inputs on the back. seriously!

i haven't confirmed it yet, but mine likely belonged to Jerry Goldsmith.
oh nice!

i'm going to have to look into those, i've been looking for a good analog delay
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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by xpander » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:44 pm

Joey wrote:i'm going to have to look into those, i've been looking for a good analog delay
it's delay portion is digital... i'll post some pictures later on, i've never seen high quality pictures of the SPT on the internet other than the occasional eBay ad.

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Yoozer » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:03 am

I wouldn't mind paying the price for this book, it's just that whoever offers it at Amazon doesn't ship to the Netherlands. Bummer :(
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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by hfinn » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:15 pm

http://www.abebooks.com

There is a copy on there in the UK that would probably ship there...

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by madtheory » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:51 pm

Hmmm. I have this book. It's time I started learning. I feel the need to give FM a chance. Would it work well with FM8, or one of the other FM plugins out there?

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Bitexion » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:49 pm

I don't know really..the FM8 is such a completely different design from the DX7, I think you'll have alot of trouble finding your way around according to the book. I tried to get into FM7 after spending lots of time with the book, because people said it was so much more "easy" to use than a real DX7. Well screw them, I couldn't find a single parameter from the DX7 when I looked for them. And you have to make the algorithms (the way operator inputs and ouputs are coupled together) the DX7 uses from scratch too. But if you manage to find everything, it would work I guess. Since most of the DX7 soundbanks work with FM7/8. Some sounds are way off, but still.

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Post by madtheory » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:15 pm

Thanks Bitexion. I think I'll borrow a DX-7 so.

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Bitexion » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:24 pm

That is definately the best way to go. You'll quickly realize that the menu system of the DX7 is geniously designed, and there are easy shortcuts for the most important functions. You'll fly around in no time. Plus, you have the REAL sound there, not an emulation.

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by madtheory » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:59 pm

Cool! Well I've long been a fan of Yamaha's UI designs, but I'm not as of yet a fan of what FM sounds like. But I need to give it a go...

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Re: The Complete DX7 by Howard Massey

Post by Yoozer » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:00 pm

The UI of a DX7S/II is different from that of a DX7, though, and the S/II is the improved version.

With the I you need to cycle through the operators to select them, with the II you have dedicated buttons for this.
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