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A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:16 pm

I'm searching for a polyphonic synth like the Roland SH201 (that is, easy programming) but smaller: I don't need 4 octaves and I don't have much room available :D

I work with pad atmospheric (darkish) sounds

No vintage, but I don't care about the price unless I'd have to sell my mother to get one, any ideas?
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby Villi » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:20 pm

Novation X-Station 25 maybe?

EDIT: Or K-station, which is similar, except more spread out controls (so probably a bit cooler interface), no multimode filter or sampled waveforms, and it has a vocoder. And none of the audio interface and controller capabilities of the X.
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:58 pm

I thought about the K-Station (I understand that the X-station isn't great in the area of sound quality), but it's hard to find a k-station to buy, especially in my country (italy)... the SH-201 has no aftertouch, which is very useful for the things I do, so the k-station would be almost perfect (underpowered arpeggiator)

I'll search for the K-Station
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby Villi » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:03 pm

Hmm I thought the x-station synth engine was the same as on the updated versions of the K-station, the KS4/5/rack with the exception of the vocoder being dropped (wich I really don't understand why they did, with the x-station's audio interface, complete with a preamp for a mic and all) and no multitimbrality? Or maybe you mean the sound quality of the audio interface?
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:04 pm

maybe I got wrong reviews on the internets, claiming that the sound quality (the synth) of the X-Station was worse than that of the k-station

I'm a little noob here, what means "multitimbrality"? And in what consists its lack?

anyway, the k-station seems impossibile to find, so the x-station would be good
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:54 pm

I took a read to the x-station manual, sadly this synth has the complexity inherent in novation products, which I experienced with some novation midi controllers... the synthesis controls are there, but somehow it seems complex to build a decent sound because the menus are confusing and the buttons too, due to the presence of other layers of use (midi controller, audio device)

this is bad to me, I'm really searching for something that's simple and intuitive, and Novation stuff is not (at least in my experience)

the sh-201 seems the only solution, I'll have to clean my desk
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby Villi » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:14 pm

Multitimbrality means that the synth can produce multiple simultanious timbres, eg play different patches at once (for example for splits/layering, but also for sequencing and stuff like that).

I can't comment on the complexity of the novations sadly, the layouts seems straightforward, but I suppose some functions might be hidden in menus.

The K-station doesn't have the controller and audio interface functions, but are of course harder to find as you can't go into *any* music store and buy one new... You could maybe import one from the uk or somewhere they're more commonplace, but I don't know how the italian customs are. (Or actually I've seen multiple online stores that say italian customers should expect longer delivery times, so I assume they and/or the mail are not the best? :P)
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby Ashe37 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:27 am

Korg R3?
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:59 am

Ok, I don't need multitimbrality

I think the k-station would be a lot better for my needs, can you tell me an online store where I can buy it? Italian customs suck, but if I purchase it in the EU (and UK is in it) I won't have any troubles

I'm looking for the R3 user guide, the interface doesn't seem as straightforward as I like ( http://www.musiciansbuy.com/mmMBCOM/images/korg_R3.jpg ) but I'll read the manual to see if it's easy enough
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby Ashe37 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:15 am

Assignable knobs with backlit LCD labels to show you what each knob is doing

PC Editor (and maybe a librarian depending on your qualifications as such, its a great editor but a very poor librarian)

LED ring on each knob shows you what the current setting is
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:31 am

I read the "sound synthesis" section of the manual: I don't think the R3 would be good to me... after years of computer based electronic music I really need something easy and straightforward to rediscover the fun in these things

any advise on where to buy the k-station?
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby Ashe37 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:51 am

K- Stations aren't made anymore. Its 'little brother' (monotimbral) the X-Station, best pricing is at novamusik.com
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby radicalcut » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:56 am

ok, so the SH-201 suits fine, and considering the samples and videos I found for this synth, it seems to sound better than the novations
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby cartesia » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:32 pm

Virus TI Polar?
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Re: A synth like the Roland SH201 but smaller

Postby gtivr6fan » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:00 pm

radicalcut wrote:ok, so the SH-201 suits fine, and considering the samples and videos I found for this synth, it seems to sound better than the novations



Wow really?
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