Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

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Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by silikon » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:45 pm

So I've been on the prowl for a machine that's different from the standard fare; not for any other reason than to realize different timbres and maybe find some interesting workflow.

So given that, I've been working under these general guidelines:

--> under USD$2k
--> not modular kit (explain in a moment)
--> not a machine that has a large fanbase (quirky, lesser known stuff that has character)
--> not FM, Wavetable or Additive (those bases are covered already)
--> could be a sound-art piece, but more inclined towards a rack mount or keyboard unit
--> Doesn't matter if it's a pain in the a*s to program (See also my Crumar Bit-01 rack)

Things i've been considering:

Crumar DS-2
EOWave Persephone
Polivoks

I am completely out of ideas. Feel free to send ideas.
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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by Stab Frenzy » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:09 pm

Thing that springs to mind for me is the OB-12.

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by Hybrid88 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:11 pm

Fizmo?

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by Psy_Free » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:23 pm

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by rhino » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:27 pm

second on the DS2
also:
Metasonics vacuum-tube synth
Casio VZ
Oscar
Wasp
Korg Z1
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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by garranimal » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:31 pm

When you say "not a machine that has a large fanbase" I also think about even a smaller group who are paying exorbitant auction prices for instruments. And to me that applies to Fizmo and EDP synths. There are a few that I have owned or played in the past that jump to mind that definitely have their own character:
- Korg Delta
- Korg DW8000/EX8000
- Akai AX-60
- Yamaha CS-15
- Sequential Six-Track is just now picking up in popularity again, but I found the sound to be really simple to the point of mundane.

And there are some that have good reason for not being more popular.
- ARP Omni. Rarely does one come up for sale that doesn't have issues.
- Korg Polysix has a good following and good analog ensemble circuit. But again the ones that don't have exorbitant prices will almost always have issues.

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by GuyaGuy » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 pm

silikon wrote:


--> could be a sound-art piece, but more inclined towards a rack mount or keyboard unit

I don't have a suggestion...But what is a "sound-art piece?"

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by cornutt » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:49 pm

GuyaGuy wrote:
silikon wrote:


--> could be a sound-art piece, but more inclined towards a rack mount or keyboard unit

I don't have a suggestion...But what is a "sound-art piece?"
I assume he means something like the stuff that Folktek and Bleep Labs do.
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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by silikon » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:00 pm

Stab Frenzy wrote:Thing that springs to mind for me is the OB-12.
Solid choice. I own one, albeit somewhat in an inpoerable state. That said, it's fun, and indeed quirky.
Hybrid88 wrote:Fizmo?
Used to own one, loved it, had to part ways due to financial reasons, One day I will again own one.
Psy_Free wrote:Cheetah MS-6
Another intriguing idea I've been tossing around...
rhino wrote:second on the DS2
also:
Metasonics vacuum-tube synth
Casio VZ
Oscar
Wasp
Korg Z1
Would love to own a wretch machine, but... it's like a financial baseball bat to the fruit basket. Same goes for the Oscar... :)
Why the Z1?
...and thanks for the affirmation on the DS-2...
garranimal wrote: There are a few that I have owned or played in the past that jump to mind that definitely have their own character:
- Korg Delta
- Korg DW8000/EX8000
- Akai AX-60
- Yamaha CS-15
What about the Akai and CS-15 ? (the CS-15 assuming I already own a CS-30)
GuyaGuy wrote:I don't have a suggestion...But what is a "sound-art piece?"
Sound art -- folktek, things of that sort...
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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by THEODICY » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:30 am

Akai VX600 could be something to consider.

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by pflosi » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:23 am

How about some nice strange effects?

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by tallowwaters » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:21 am

Korg Z1
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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by Richard Gear » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:38 am

I was about to suggest the XT, but you already have it. I have a Z1, it's a great synth with some physical modelling options, but a steep learning curve.

Actually, I don't think you need to have more synth. You probably just need some inspiration from whithin.

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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by griffin avid » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:20 am

I was also going to say do it Strange in the post patch effects.
Buy a massive chain of effect boxes (guitar ones) and filter toys.

You have one massive monster and run MANY synths through it.
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Re: Picking a lesser used but interesting synth...

Post by visceralvoids » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:27 am

griffin avid wrote:I was also going to say do it Strange in the post patch effects.
Buy a massive chain of effect boxes (guitar ones) and filter toys.

You have one massive monster and run MANY synths through it.
Is a Line 6 M13 recommended for this it is around $400 on a drum machine?
when I used to play guitar and I would dream about the TC Electronic G-System

EDIT: As for what synth I would pick Oberheim OB-12, Korg Karma if you like workstations... I tried Novation once. and they are worth a try

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