Appreciate the feedback,recordbot wrote:the exact details of why I cannot say but my man from Detroit came to my studio and told me that the collector items need to go, everything without a specific purpose had to go, and that I had way too much stuff I didn't need, basically get 1 thing for poly, 1 thing for mono, he said the drum boxes were collector items that had to go and that he had way more interesting stuff cutting up drum loops in Maschine and then running them out and back in again through various processors to get what he wantedvarun213 wrote:I'm having trouble making this 900$ investment for a Drum synth lol...
interesting enough he told me some of the deepest techno tracks I love with really big sounding drums weren't even 808/909 they were made with a R8 that was sampled resampled processed and recorded,
this guy told me the key to my studio was my console and my preamps that I should just run everything through that and then run it through again. To be honest he's making money with this and touring all the time, he's been inside every studio in Detroit so I have to take what he says with some amount of serious, someone else mentioned you need those 808/909 boxes for certain music and while yes that is true to some degree it's not like you can't make that music without those boxes either,
it's not the hardware that creates the music, your mind does, so pass on the expensive drum box and think about everything else a producer needs to consider in his chain between idea and finished product, don't sleep on console, convertors, EQ, compression, preamps, you can probably produce a lot more with a revox tape deck and everything you already have than just buying another piece.
so if you're hot to spend money and you don't have a preamp go find yourself a preamp like warm audio tonebeast, ampex 601, or anything like that and use that, it's less than your drum synth budget and will teach you more about producing, if you can hold out save your money and go buy a manley varimu, or go grab a 1176 clone and run things through that, whats your console and eq situation looking like? what are your convertors looking like? anything weak in that chain is going to determine where your final product sits so you could have every drum box and synth on the hot list and have it sound terrible because you have no console, no tape, no high quality conversion
which sample library to use?
you have a record collection right?
I'm sure there are drums on those records, if not go buy the best of little feat and start there. I'm sure between a little feat CD, preamp and tape deck you can hit a tone nobody else has yet with samples everyone has heard a million times, and anyone else reading this could do the same if any of us could get out of the gas zone.
the guys in Chicago tell me that tone control on the 909 belongs all the way up and it should stay there, so if you're doing that kind of music why have the box if that setting will just always sit in 1 place
well to start off my setup is completely digital. The only thing external is prophet '08 and Roland A-88 midi keyboard. I got the chance to record a simple beat using a synth bass programmed from the prophet and it instantly sounds way better than digital synth basses! with that I am really inclined towards the VERMONA DRM1 drum synth because I know it packs a powerful analog sound with those drums. But you mentioned about getting a really nice pre-amp instead and just run drumkit samples through that once or twice. That sounds really interesting and I wouldn't doubt it if that could give a fat analog type sound! For drums and Hardware synths in general what are some really good Pre amps out there at around 1200? (my budget is 1200 max for a pre amp for now lol)
Kick drums and claps I am not too worried about I think running those types of samples through a pre amp would make em sound great. I want to get into creating my own EFX sounds that dont have to deal with time stretching issues like you would with a sample. Are there any hardware synths that are dedicated to making weird percussive/efx type sounds out there?
I'm very very new to the hardware synth world.