madtheory wrote:BTW folks, "path length" is a non-issue in a Moog, seeing as everything is low frequency i.e. not in MHz range. What it is though, is a very good example of pseudoscience. For example "I heard it, so you must believe me when I say it" instead of "here is some evidence/test that you can try for yourself".
madtheory - I recommend you go and read about analogue electronics. What I'm telling you is important in audio design. You do not need to be in the Mega Hertz range for these effects to be noticed - because (as just one reason why) - they have an impact on "Phase" - and if you know anything about electronics - you realise that Phase is everything. It is well known, for example that the management of phase is among THE issues in designing analogue desk signal paths, addressed though management of all of the issues I raise (an some). As one example - SSL desks are well known to be horrendous at handling phase in a consistent way, despite their otherwise reputation, for example, for all the reasons I previously cited.
You're surmising from basic principles only - as in - speed of electromagnetic wave transmission issues can be only noticeable on MegaHertz range and higher over meter length ranges. Not true.
As you know I respect you judgement - but here, for whatever reason, you've got a blinkered view. All of the reasons that I've give you as to why the Voyager must be different to the Minimoog are real - and - not even surprising. In essence - everything in it is different - why would anyone ever surmise they are the same? I don't get where you're coming from.
Every nuance in analogue electronics has impact on the behaviour of the circuit - and we're talking different circuit designs, more circuits, 40 year difference in, well, everything in the Voyager. If you want to go on believing that they are the same go ahead, but you're deluding your self. Even your proposal that we can't know unless we do a blind A-B test is nonsense - yes such a test would be useful - but the lack of an A-B blind test does not render the situation unresolvable or unresolved. There are dozens of demos out there that already demonstrate the difference, clearly.
Why you want them to be the same is obviously your beef - but don't start throwing "pseudo-science" arguments around when you're not even aware of analogue electronics and the myriad of complex issues involved in dealing with audio.