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Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:42 am
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
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Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

Syn303 wrote:
Soundwave wrote:but i can see things comming full circle in the not too distant future as folk are starting to get bored with moving a mouse pointer around a screen.
except for the bedroom kiddies who churn out trite trance music with a copy of Dance Ejay :lol:

LOL
by 23
Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:43 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

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DSI, FR, Moog, MFB, etc. are all rather small companies. (granted FR and DSI have matured some since their inception) Back in the mid/late 90s, there were actually a significant higher amount of companies sprouting up (that I can think of) that were rolling out analog products, the majority of them ...
by 23
Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:19 am
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

I think numerous things can mark an end to subtractive synthesis "As We Know It". For example, in the advent of sample based synths, I'd say at the time, there was a major end to "Subtractive Synthesis As We Know It". Take something like the D-50, and despite it's subtractive heart, it was able to j...
by 23
Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:37 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

MIDI is alive and well and about to get a serious kick in the but. =) Not only that, dev folks are being allowed to get a taste as stands. =) MIDI AND THE FUTURE I mean the whole USB thing is truly just on the fringe of what is about to happen to MIDI. My guess is that we have maybe 2 years before w...
by 23
Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:21 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

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I both agree and disagree with you there Kevin. I agree with you to the extent that I totally believe that there is an intimate relationship between how an instrument can/is controlled and played to what the resulting sound ends up being. However, at the same time, I can't say that I feel any need t...
by 23
Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:28 am
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

Anthowz bud you've got a fine collection of grooveboxes already and its shocking not one of them is an Elektron!!!! :o Believe it or not, as I told a work partner of mine recently (to his shock) "I do believe I've hit the end of gear w***e road." I'm strongly contemplating picking up a Chameleon (w...
by 23
Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:39 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

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it's totally feasible to be able to trigger envelopes via MIDI; there's really nothing stopping that from happening what so ever. In regard to controlling devices with sysex in real time, I use to do it with my Juno 106 (only time I really had an actual need to do it); so it can be done. In the past...
by 23
Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:11 am
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

I didn't say Clavia invented the morph thing, just that they headed in that direction. You can potentially have access to every paramater on a synth with MIDI. Typically you'll have some CCs where applicable, but sysex can run wild. This is how software editors are able to do their thing in VERY lar...
by 23
Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:45 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: Tenori-On...
Replies: 26
Views: 8094

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:oops: I'm already getting bored of it... :lol: please tell me the feeling is nothing along the lines of "Did I really just play 1k for a light brite?" anyhow, friend of mine said that there was some interesting feature called "bounce" I tried to look up some info on it, but really didn't fully und...
by 23
Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:49 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

The Origin and Spectralis are heading in the same direction too but either way anything that tries go go beyond the limits of MIDI is the way to go for sure. I have to confess I'm baffled on the limits of MIDI, as it's limitations are pretty far spread....it's just a programming language, nothing m...
by 23
Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:27 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

I think the stand point from which I was assuming one would approach the V was misunderstood. The V-Synth is not any kind of performance sequencer, it is a synth, plain and simple. From that angle, if one feels a need to do an equal of odd envelope triggerings or something within a patch, the V more...
by 23
Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:30 am
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

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Yeah, touche, I totally forgot about the Neuron. I think you're totally misgetting the V though. For one, it's most obviously not a mass market synth. In regard to independent triggering of various things, Roland pretty much implemented such actions in the form of step modulators that can run in ste...
by 23
Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:36 am
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

the problem comes down to immediacy and musicality sure the k5000s can do a shitload of sounds that arent capable on any other synth, but how long does it take to get to those sounds, and how different will they be from some other digital synth? unless you're doing crazy ear candy fx, you can only ...
by 23
Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:55 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

Elektron are holding the torch and hence are the most innovative new electronic instruments made in the past decade as getting electronic intruments out of the studio and into the live arena as a true performance instrument has still yet to be realised properly. I gotta disagree with you there, I c...
by 23
Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:47 pm
Forum: General Synthesizers
Topic: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....
Replies: 81
Views: 24812

Re: The End Of Subtractive As We Know It....

My guess is that if Korg had a sample based synth at $399 it would be just as popular. My guess would be Korg agrees with you (and felt a need to follow Roland's or at least Access's lead)... their last mid/low mid line synth being the R3; which of course featured ample based waveforms. Actually, t...