YMO had officially-released MIDI & synth patches online for download. They're gone now; we're trying to find them

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YMO had officially-released MIDI & synth patches online for download. They're gone now; we're trying to find them

Post by FTComposition » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:16 pm

For those who don't know: YMO is one of the most influential electronic music acts of all-time. Modern pop & huge artists like Daft Punk, Afrika Bambaataa, countless original video game composers (Koji Kondo & Junichi Masuda immediately come to mind) etc. wouldn't exist without their influence. They've been covered by & influenced other acts such as Michael Jackson, Eric Clapton, David Bowie, & Duran Duran, and paved the path to develop genres like electro, house, synthpop, trance etc. In short, they're a pretty big deal!

Their synth programmer, Hideki Matsutake, once had the official MIDI & synth patch files of YMO & Logic System (Matsutake's YMO-inspired music project) available for purchase online in the noughties. These files would be invaluable for learning music production & songwriting, and for doing 100% accurate covers of YMO's music.

Long-story short, I haven't been able to find them yet, but here's the details of my search so far:

I first learned of these files from this obscure online entry on Matsutake.
http://nickkent.net/jem/ls.html

The author of the write-up says:
I saw a number of authorized commercial MIDI files [that Hideki Matsutake] released in 2000 of YMO's original songs, many of which he surely had a hand in arranging originally 20 years ago.
This was the first I had heard of them, so I e-mailed the author about it, and he got back to me & said:
I remember [those files], am near certain at the time there was no way to pay for them that someone overseas would have access to, so you would have needed a friend in Japan to get them…
I did that for his YMO midi file collection many years ago. I’d have to study details to remember, I think I paid a friend $20 or something to but them online. Not sure if that was on his website. They were pretty interesting files, lots of controller info as I recall.  I think I heard they were boxed too, but that wasn’t cheap, like $50 though I only half remember.

I remember I passed on the Hosono sample CD. It was like $200 retail and I think the tease is he made an exclusive song with it that you got as a demo, like 20 years ago or whenever sample CDs were a thing
Regarding his own music on his website. I remember one was free. Have you found it anywhere. If wayback machine has the file name or at least song name I might have archived the free one.
Don’t think there is any midi file market any more? 
I pestered him about if he still had those YMO files that he had his friend buy & send him/upload, but he never got back to me in the end. From all of what I've looked, there's no trace of them available for purchase or download *anywhere* on the Internet - not even on YMO or Matsutake's current site.

After some deep digging, I was able to confirm their existence through an archived version of Matsutake's website (whose homepage auto-downloads a free MIDI, as the author alluded to in his e-mail).
https://web.archive.org/web/20060206165 ... jp/~logic/

The homepage has a link to a purchase page which lists the sought-after MIDI & patch files for both Logic System (Matsutake's YMO-inspired project) & YMO, though clicking on the credit card purchase option for any of the files redirects to an unarchived page with no chance of attaining them.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071025110 ... d%a8%bc%f9

I tried to get in touch with Matsutake's team more than a few times for info on if the files were still available anywhere, or if they could send. After my fourth or fifth attempt at getting in contact, I got an e-mail back saying that Matsutake himself stated that they weren't available anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/bNRjsQK.png

That's where I've been stuck. I'd imagine that I'd have much more luck finding the files if I could explore the Japanese side of the Internet, especially considering that they could apparently only be purchased through Japanese Internet, but I don't speak the language so it's been essentially impossible to do so effectively.

If anyone else is willing to help investigate or has any more info, please let me know!

Thank you.

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Re: YMO had officially-released MIDI & synth patches online for download. They're gone now; we're trying to find them

Post by madtheory » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:13 pm

Interesting. Try posting on Gearslutz Electronic Music Instruments and Electronic Music Production forum, it's a bit better populated than here. You might find the info more quickly.

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Re: YMO had officially-released MIDI & synth patches online for download. They're gone now; we're trying to find them

Post by meatballfulton » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:16 pm

He's already posted there. And the answer is:

Link to the YMO MIDI files

Now you just need all the same synths and you're in business :dancer:
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Re: YMO had officially-released MIDI & synth patches online for download. They're gone now; we're trying to find them

Post by madtheory » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:44 pm

Those are fan made, they don't even have the right notes played. And what about the synth patch files?

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