definitely looking into getting one of these since I'm into psytrance...sequence wrote:I >heart< my Planet Earth.If U can get the PE ROM it will make yr PX-7 come alive!! best romplers ever!
damn I wish I'd bought a whole pile of these ROMs when Emu was selling them for $50!) The pads are most definitely velocity sensitve, however, like most velocity sensitive controllers they can be made to act in a non-velocity sensitive manner. By default, this typically will be a matter of how a particular patch was programmed.tom Cadillac wrote:I'v got an MP7 - but am still coming to grips with it. I want to use it as a drum machine. Don't think I'v got anywhere near its potential.
But in many ways I don't like it. I bought it coz it was ridiculously cheap and I'm kind of stuck with it, as i can't imagine getting such a fancy piece of kit in the near future. So I want a sequencer for some drum tracks and this is what I'm using. Yet all the instant stuff on it - the paint by numbers music approach.....I thought there was no way to start from a blank canvas for a while. ! Also reading the maual i felt it was not quite accurate - like the 'amazing pads' - I find them not v responsive and where's the aftertouch?
Also I spent some time programming the ancient Emu MPS recently and got some amazing sounds out of it.
Comparing the two I can understand why Emu failed - because of just piling stuff onto the same basic structure. Personally I'v found the MPS more rewarding. Maybe its just easier and I havn't put the time into the MP7?
Hey man does the PX7 have the better 24bit DA's like the P2500?23 wrote:The pads are most definitely velocity sensitve, however, like most velocity sensitive controllers they can be made to act in a non-velocity sensitive manner. By default, this typically will be a matter of how a particular patch was programmed.tom Cadillac wrote:I'v got an MP7 - but am still coming to grips with it. I want to use it as a drum machine. Don't think I'v got anywhere near its potential.
But in many ways I don't like it. I bought it coz it was ridiculously cheap and I'm kind of stuck with it, as i can't imagine getting such a fancy piece of kit in the near future. So I want a sequencer for some drum tracks and this is what I'm using. Yet all the instant stuff on it - the paint by numbers music approach.....I thought there was no way to start from a blank canvas for a while. ! Also reading the maual i felt it was not quite accurate - like the 'amazing pads' - I find them not v responsive and where's the aftertouch?
Also I spent some time programming the ancient Emu MPS recently and got some amazing sounds out of it.
Comparing the two I can understand why Emu failed - because of just piling stuff onto the same basic structure. Personally I'v found the MPS more rewarding. Maybe its just easier and I havn't put the time into the MP7?
A lot of the beauty to the P2500/CS is it's modular nature....if you're into that sort of thing at least. To this same end, if you're not into that kind of thing, it can be a major detriment.
One of the things this results in is that the controls on the P2500 are not truly set as marked. If the cutoff knob happens to truly effect cutoff, that's courtesy of the maker of the patch, not because the knob is hardwired. Even the CC values that pertain to almost any given parameter are not hard set. This confused a mate of mine once, as I was working on a patch, I had told him I was dealing with what I wanted the equivalent of my modulation wheel to effect, and then much to his bafflement, when he started fiddling with the modulation wheel of an external controller that was being ran into the P2500/CS, he got no result. It wasn't that something was broken or not working, it was simply that I did not have what I wanted to serve as modulation wheel parameter set to correspond to the typical CC value for modulation wheel.
The P2500 is a pretty in depth and complex beast and has been so from the get go. I actually worked, along with a number of others, on the OS upgrades post version 1.0, and there was a TON that we added. The poster here would benefit from getting a PX7 as that was the only model made post our additions, and thus has a bit of a mapping flow labeled on the hardware itself in regard to how some of those new functions came to work, the other models do not however. This means there can be A LOT to commit to memory at times if one wants to really get the most out of P2500/CS's capabilities (notably as a sequencer).
The P2500 and Command Station are actually the same thing (which is why I note "P2500/CS"). Well, there is a difference actually, but it's merely cosmetic. The P2500 was made with the idea of being rack mounted from the get go, and as such, it's outputs and inputs are idealy located for such. The CS on the other hand, though it can be rackmounted, was designed with being set down in a desktop manner first, and as such, it's inputs and outputs are located in such a way that when rack mounted, can be a bit annoying (rather than being at the back of the unit, when rack mounted, the inputs and outputs would literally be pointing straight up). Outside of that, they are the same beast.Soundwave wrote:Hey man does the PX7 have the better 24bit DA's like the P2500?23 wrote:The pads are most definitely velocity sensitve, however, like most velocity sensitive controllers they can be made to act in a non-velocity sensitive manner. By default, this typically will be a matter of how a particular patch was programmed.tom Cadillac wrote:I'v got an MP7 - but am still coming to grips with it. I want to use it as a drum machine. Don't think I'v got anywhere near its potential.
But in many ways I don't like it. I bought it coz it was ridiculously cheap and I'm kind of stuck with it, as i can't imagine getting such a fancy piece of kit in the near future. So I want a sequencer for some drum tracks and this is what I'm using. Yet all the instant stuff on it - the paint by numbers music approach.....I thought there was no way to start from a blank canvas for a while. ! Also reading the maual i felt it was not quite accurate - like the 'amazing pads' - I find them not v responsive and where's the aftertouch?
Also I spent some time programming the ancient Emu MPS recently and got some amazing sounds out of it.
Comparing the two I can understand why Emu failed - because of just piling stuff onto the same basic structure. Personally I'v found the MPS more rewarding. Maybe its just easier and I havn't put the time into the MP7?
A lot of the beauty to the P2500/CS is it's modular nature....if you're into that sort of thing at least. To this same end, if you're not into that kind of thing, it can be a major detriment.
One of the things this results in is that the controls on the P2500 are not truly set as marked. If the cutoff knob happens to truly effect cutoff, that's courtesy of the maker of the patch, not because the knob is hardwired. Even the CC values that pertain to almost any given parameter are not hard set. This confused a mate of mine once, as I was working on a patch, I had told him I was dealing with what I wanted the equivalent of my modulation wheel to effect, and then much to his bafflement, when he started fiddling with the modulation wheel of an external controller that was being ran into the P2500/CS, he got no result. It wasn't that something was broken or not working, it was simply that I did not have what I wanted to serve as modulation wheel parameter set to correspond to the typical CC value for modulation wheel.
The P2500 is a pretty in depth and complex beast and has been so from the get go. I actually worked, along with a number of others, on the OS upgrades post version 1.0, and there was a TON that we added. The poster here would benefit from getting a PX7 as that was the only model made post our additions, and thus has a bit of a mapping flow labeled on the hardware itself in regard to how some of those new functions came to work, the other models do not however. This means there can be A LOT to commit to memory at times if one wants to really get the most out of P2500/CS's capabilities (notably as a sequencer).
Is the P2500 the best of the bunch next to the Orbit V3, XL-7, PX-7?
I'm really tempted by the P2500 but I'd prefer it to be a console shape like the XL/PX/MP rather than a big boxy rack.
