Beware the storm that gathers here...

JSRockit · Post by **JSRockit** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:49 pm

Thank lord it's not something I want... However, it sounds like this thing will be a huge seller...at least around here.

Dave Bryce · Post by **Dave Bryce** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:14 pm

Carey M wrote:Will the P8 use the PEK keyboard?

No. New keybed.

Andy_X69 wrote:Will it have multitimbrality?

No. Just split and layer.

vwizz wrote:Does it have aftertouch?

Yes.

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DSI

aXL · Post by **aXL** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:17 pm

Dave Bryce wrote:
vwizz wrote:Does it have aftertouch?
Yes.

Poly AT? (Not necessary, but would be fun to have.)

Otherwise, the Prophet 08 sounds like a dream come true! If I have the cash by the time it hits the market, I'm signing up for it!

softroom · Post by **softroom** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:20 pm

Ching! I'm in!
Paul

Dave Bryce · Post by **Dave Bryce** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:23 pm

aXL wrote:Poly AT?

No.

I'm not sure anyone even makes a Poly AT keybed any more....can't remember the last time I heard of a synth that transmits it (although a bunch of them allegedly respond to it).

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DSI

hageir · Post by **hageir** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:27 pm

sizzlemeister wrote:Is the PS built into the box this time?

Irregardless - is there a parallel trade-in program available, too? That's what I wanted the PEK to be - for me. I love it, but, man the P'08 sounds perfect.

Regardless..
Irregardless isn't a word.

:D:D:D haha

wow, that new prophet has a champion sound!
congrats dave smith & co., on another genius masterpiece..
I love you

I wonder if Phil Collins has one reserved for him?

ps. no pictures?

...biting the hand that feeds you

tscharf · Post by **tscharf** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:30 pm

Ok, Im going to be the one guy here to say I am not salivating. In fact, I am a little disppointed. the never ending feedback loop of recreating synths of the past really has always kinda bored me. I feel the same way about this idea as I did when I heard about the voyager: its interesting, but what have they done to make it capable of breaking new ground? That question isnt answered yet, so Ill reserve my judgement (and my GAS) for when I actually can see/hear/play one.

before anyone jumps on me, I happen to be a HUGE fan of DSI. I had my PEK on preorder almost as soon as it was announced, and if I have a choice between paying for a kidney opperation and selling my PEK, well...I got another kidney.

No matter what i say or think, though, this is bound to be a big seller for DSI. And if that helps get the Boom-Chik out the door, or perhaps an 8voice PEK, then I am all for it!

oh, and one more thought: I *would* be phoning up my retailer right now, if there was a 3 octave monophonic version in the cards. Ive only read about 60% of this thread, so maybe I missed that...

rockmanrock · Post by **rockmanrock** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:43 pm

I have to admit, I'm not massively excited by this. It sounds like it uses those DCO "synth on a chip" CEM chips, much the same ones that were used in the Marion and Matrix 6/1000 many years ago.

I'm sure Dave will have done a great update to that sort of synth but I would be surprised if it sounds anything like a VCO powered P5. Maybe the software slopping will fool us? I'm sure it will beat the pants off any VA though!

sizzlemeister · Post by **sizzlemeister** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:47 pm

hageir wrote:
Regardless..
Irregardless isn't a word.

You have to be kidding me with this comment, now, here in this thread. Get a life, loser.

tscharf wrote:In fact, I am a little disppointed. the never ending feedback loop of recreating synths of the past really has always kinda bored me. I feel the same way about this idea as I did when I heard about the voyager: its interesting, but what have they done to make it capable of breaking new ground? That question isnt answered yet, so Ill reserve my judgement (and my GAS) for when I actually can see/hear/play one.

Having gone through endless "new" synths with oodles and oodles of options, features, thing-a-ma-bobs, and doo-daddles, I think paradigm for a synthesizer-as-an-instrument has matured, like the electric guitar in the '90s (finally) and the drum kit in the '70s.

In other words, a subtractive synthesizer only needs so much to be useful, and too much can be a distraction. So, I for one welcome a basic, but plentiful, design.

I mean, what is the point and utility of options, features, and experiements in "new ways to generate sound" when what many people want in a physical instrument these days is sound, playability, reliability , and appeal? You can get your freak on with countless soft-instruments. Or roll your own with digital modulars.

raffor · Post by **raffor** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:49 pm

rockmanrock wrote:I have to admit, I'm not massively excited by this. It sounds like it uses those DCO "synth on a chip" CEM chips, much the same ones that were used in the Marion and Matrix 6/1000 many years ago.

I'm sure Dave will have done a great update to that sort of synth but I would be surprised if it sounds anything like a VCO powered P5. Maybe the software slopping will fool us? I'm sure it will beat the pants off any VA though!

I am not very impressed with the sounds that are posted. Not sure, but if this is based on the analog section of the evolver, I would not expect too much. Anyway, they say it was tweaked. Let's see.

Regarding the prototypes, looks like a 4 octave keyboard and a very similar arrangement of knobs as on the MEK, but less knobs. The display is white and looks like capable of graphics. The colorscheme is black with white surroundings and labelings, very similar to the P600.

I hope the version sold has a better arrangement of knobs, since these are all in two straight lines.

haricots · Post by **haricots** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:53 pm

sizzlemeister wrote:
hageir wrote:
Regardless..
Irregardless isn't a word.
You have to be kidding me with this comment, now, here in this thread. Get a life, loser.

Don't be such a sensitive tit. You forgot to quote the smilies.

Hmmmm, should I be saving for this new DSI synth or the FR XS? Tough decision.

vwizz · Post by **vwizz** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:09 pm

sizzlemeister wrote: I think paradigm for a synthesizer-as-an-instrument has matured, like the electric guitar in the '90s (finally) and the drum kit in the '70s.

In other words, a subtractive synthesizer only needs so much to be useful, and too much can be a distraction. So, I for one welcome a basic, but plentiful, design.

My recent experience with my Little Phatty would tend to prove your point. In the end it's the synth I'm playing the most with Rhodes and a pair of Matrix 1000.. Trying to focus on music more than on sound design...
Even though I love the MEK

(which still has a great iuser interface, much better than the A6 for example...)

V

stillearning · Post by **stillearning** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:13 pm

tscharf wrote:I am a little disppointed. the never ending feedback loop of recreating synths of the past really has always kinda bored me. I feel the same way about this idea as I did when I heard about the voyager: its interesting, but what have they done to make it capable of breaking new ground? ...

...oh, and one more thought: I *would* be phoning up my retailer right now, if there was a 3 octave monophonic version in the cards.

How does one go about reconciling these two thoughts?

Post by **johans121** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:15 pm

So, Dave, when are you just going to post the specifications & pics? Now that the cat is out of the bag, what does it matter if you post them - I mean... it is being released for sale in a week?! It's not like someone can steal the idea...

-Jim

yburn · Post by **yburn** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:28 pm

tscharf wrote:Ok, Im going to be the one guy here to say I am not salivating. In fact, I am a little disppointed. the never ending feedback loop of recreating synths of the past really has always kinda bored me. I feel the same way about this idea as I did when I heard about the voyager: its interesting, but what have they done to make it capable of breaking new ground? That question isnt answered yet, so Ill reserve my judgement (and my GAS) for when I actually can see/hear/play one.

I don't think either this or the voyager was a recreation of older synths. Yes the technology is similar in areas but there is no other moog that has the control, mod or MIDI options that the voyager has, it's an evolution of the original idea. How many vintage polys have the mod options or the sequencer functions that the P8 will have, let alone the ability to talk note/ clock and sequencer information with your midi studio.