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drum machine through synth

Post by ned-ryarson » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:26 pm

does anyone process drum sounds or loops from a drum machine through a synth which can except external signals? it sounds like a good idea to get crazier percussive sounds for more experimental electronika

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Post by JSRockit » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:33 pm

I've done it in the past using a Voyager and a DSI Evolver. I'm probably going to start doing it with my Elektron stuff as well. Of course it can deliver some cool results...but at other times...it's just a waste of time. That can be said about any technique though.
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Post by ronP » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:41 pm

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I run my MRT-3B through my microKorg's "audio in" and then tweak the mK's filter to good effect. All you need is a 1/4" cable and to set the synth's OSC 1 to "audio" . . . The effect is exactly like what you can hear in a lot of Depeche Mode's songs . . . beats that fade in and out of the mix by using cutoff and resonance tweaked together.

Just be sure to hold down a key on the synth so that a tone is activated and heard!

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Post by tom Cadillac » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:50 pm

At the moment I'm about to put a yamaha rx11 through a redsound darkstar. :oops: I'm a bit embaressed about having cheap/unfashionable gear though.
Then again sound is sound and doesn't have a price? Anyway definately a cool thing to do with old analogue drum machines. Have you tried playing the drum pads live and using a pedal to modulate the sound? The zoom muliteffects/stomp boxes have a cool ring modulater effect you can use a pedal with. I'd like to practice to be good enough to play this as a live instrument - a sort of electronic drum kit -as opposed to just programming the drum machine and pressing play. "To experiment is to enjoy" (DJ Vyneer)

PS What's the mrt3b like as a drum machine? I'm aiming to slip one into work in my pocket, so I can make good use of my time there.
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Post by Z » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:20 pm

I used to run individual drum sounds of my 808 through my SH-2's filter for very interesting results. I don't remember ever running all the sounds through it, though.
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Re: drum machine through synth

Post by Soundwave » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:06 pm

[email protected] wrote:does anyone process drum sounds or loops from a drum machine through a synth which can except external signals? it sounds like a good idea to get crazier percussive sounds for more experimental electronika
Yup but a decent analogueish filter being triggered by the drum track will give the best results. The Arturia Moog Modular input sounds very good.

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Post by devetron » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:16 pm

ronP wrote:.


I run my MRT-3B through my microKorg's "audio in" and then tweak the mK's filter to good effect. All you need is a 1/4" cable and to set the synth's OSC 1 to "audio" . . . The effect is exactly like what you can hear in a lot of Depeche Mode's songs . . . beats that fade in and out of the mix by using cutoff and resonance tweaked together.

Just be sure to hold down a key on the synth so that a tone is activated and heard!

:)


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One could have some fun by midi syncing the drum machine to the MK and setting the lfos and/or delay to sync to the drum machine's clock with various resolutions. Dammit. I know what I'm going to be doing tonight.
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Post by GeneralBigbag » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:23 pm

Why else would the Evolver let you modulate the delay time with the input envelope?
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Re: drum machine through synth

Post by reset » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:52 am

[email protected] wrote:does anyone process drum sounds or loops from a drum machine through a synth which can except external signals? it sounds like a good idea to get crazier percussive sounds for more experimental electronika
Battery drum loop through Moog Little Phatty Filter (under Little Phatty Filter In):

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Post by piRoN » Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:05 am

I can't think of many times where my drums haven't been processed through one of my synths... :)

My KS4, CS15, and ASM-2 all work a treat fattening up or freaking out drumlines. The KS4 is a good all-rounder for multimode filtering and ringmod type stuff, the CS15 can add a ton of punch using the audio envelope trigger*, and the ASM-2 is hours of modular processing fun.

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Post by crystalmsc » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:08 am

I used to jam with the RT-123 plugged into the X-station. the distortion give me some nice cruchy rhythm from those rock beats. pity that the x don't have a vocoder and can't even process external signal with the filter. but I have lot's of fun for what it is though.
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Post by shaft9000 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:38 am

You'll almost always get smoother, more musical results going through an analog filter. Assuming you're after musical results, that is.

If you just want crazy sounds, then an array of cheap boxes is as good as anything, really.

Although i must say the digital filters in my E-mu's (Emulator X studio & Esi32) are kinda nice....the A/D+D/A circuits add some very good grit. Just about every other digital filter I've heard sound a bit stale or worse, and the resonance is just not quite right, even in the best VST's.
For the wierder BP & multi filters a digital can be OK, but for classic LPF it's gotta be a good analog to smooth/fuzz out the bass when working with high resonance.

Invest in a quality analog filterbox and use the h**l out of it on everything; it will give you a better perspective on music-making, recording and your synth-GAS.
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Post by mirt » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:23 am

lel uds (soviet electronic precusion) processed by yamaha cs5 - low bass sounds with long release and some tweaking with eg, s&h and vcf - sounds like low tablas, great groove.

drummachine processed by ms10 with hand made cv sequencer conected to the cutoff with some resonance - great bleepy polyrythmic structures.
if i add to this some reversed delays (line 6 echopark) and reverbs (mxr digital reverb 01, roland chorus echo) i can press record and go for coffee.

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Post by TrondC » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:50 pm

I frequently run my drum machines through other gear. my favourites include sending the ER to ESX input, then motion sequence and add effects, totally awesome and very cool drums, and running my CR68 through 2 differnt distortions and then into the microkorg, be it for vocoding or justn using the filter and effects of the mK, also sounds out of this world.
For the record, drum loops sent through a pitch shifter, pitched an octave or two lower always sounds creepy and harsh.

As a matter of fact, I've just ordered a SYB-3, and hoping to win a DD-6 on eBay, can't wait to run my drum machines through this :)

oh, sending a drum machine to the mickorg and setting it to arpeggiator and playing around with the tempo-knob is alsy really, really fun :)

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