Actually the RozzBox does have a built in sequencer. Actually it has 4 per voice = total 20 sequencers.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:04 am
by stikygum
There you go. Dump the 777. Get Rozzy. Then buy the new FR product. And make sure there is some cake around.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:17 am
by breitt
The 777's not going anywhere until there's more Rozz demos out there and/or Jered emerges from the basement.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:19 am
by JSRockit
drxcm wrote:Actually the RozzBox does have a built in sequencer. Actually it has 4 per voice = total 20 sequencers.
Are you f-ing kidding me? How did I miss that? s**t, now I want one...
BUT, I'm looking at this pic and cannot figure out how you'd sequence it...
I need to read the manual now...
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:39 am
by space6oy
JSRockit wrote:
drxcm wrote:Actually the RozzBox does have a built in sequencer. Actually it has 4 per voice = total 20 sequencers.
Are you f-ing kidding me? How did I miss that?
i've never heard any mention of that either...
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:31 am
by sensorium
BCM mentions it in the notes of this vid:
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Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:23 am
by breitt
JSRockit wrote:
drxcm wrote:Actually the RozzBox does have a built in sequencer. Actually it has 4 per voice = total 20 sequencers.
Are you f-ing kidding me? How did I miss that? s**t, now I want one...
BUT, I'm looking at this pic and cannot figure out how you'd sequence it...
I need to read the manual now...
The sequencing on this thing, I've heard, is no easy task. It's a matter of menu-diving on that tiny screen combined with button-clicks. I've been in contact with the venerable Droolmaster who just snagged a used unit, and even he is mildly challenged by the interface and Germanlish manual.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:23 am
by kuroichi
I'm at my worst financially, so this and the Miami are probably gonna kill me off for a while...
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:26 am
by bakeded
:-#
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:17 pm
by 23
killedaway wrote:i'm puttin' my money on 777 r2. i'm almost hoping it's not, 'cause i will buy one, but i don't know where the funds will come from!
It's not a re-release of the 777, so go ahead and get rid of that idea.
If you want a 777 part 2, look to the XS.
Is the XS a 777?
No it's not.
I know a lot of people don't get this philosophy, but though Jared has not ruled out re-visiting the 777 at some point, I know (per him) that he really has no personal interest in doing so. He'd rather do something he hasn't done yet.
That said, he isn't blind to the interest in the 777 post it's production run, and the 777 was considerably in mind during the creation of the XS. It's not a 777 part 2, but it definitely holds A LOT in common with the 777.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:22 pm
by Syn303
23 wrote:but though Jared has not ruled out re-visiting the 777 at some point, I know (per him) that he really has no personal interest in doing so. He'd rather do something he hasn't done yet.
He's done the 303 type clones = 777/Revolution
A CV/Gate/Midi Sequencer = Mobius
A Semi-Modular = XS
What's left then to do
An x0x type Drum Machine?
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:30 pm
by Computer Controlled
I'm still thinking it's a new sequencer.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:36 pm
by Syn303
Computer Controlled wrote:I'm still thinking it's a new sequencer.
If it's CC, i hope it's capable of doing polyrhythmic sequences this time around. Instead of a single line of 16-steps.
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:43 pm
by Mush
He hasn't done a rompler yet and that market is huge. It will be the FR Phat-Ohm with orchestral expansion pack, harddrive-recording and 128 note polyphony! WOW!
Re: New Future Retro product coming.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:46 pm
by 23
Syn303 wrote:
23 wrote:but though Jared has not ruled out re-visiting the 777 at some point, I know (per him) that he really has no personal interest in doing so. He'd rather do something he hasn't done yet.
He's done the 303 type clones = 777/Revolution
A CV/Gate/Midi Sequencer = Mobius
A Semi-Modular = XS
What's left then to do
An x0x type Drum Machine?
The 777 was not/is not a 303 clone. It could do one h**l of a 303 emulation, but it could not nail the 303 perfectly, and it's not being able to do so was part of a conscious decision on Jared's part. Similarly, that decision was made in large part due to the fact that it wasn't meant as simply something that could act as a 303 and Jared felt that staying away from hard 303 emulation would prove to extend it's overall usefulness as a synth.
Again, this is per him, I'm not making this up.
An example of this would be the 777's square, which purposely emits a true square. Jared's take was that a true square would be more useful in FM purposes then the 303s funky shape. (I agree with him on this)
The 777 really was it's own thing.
The 303 played a significant part in it's design concept, but then again, so did the 606 and other (non 303 related) things.
How far off from a 303 is it? Suffice to say that if you set 20 people down in front of a 777 that really didn't know much about subtractive synthesis workings or the 303, recorded all their initial actions on the 777 for an hour, you'd probably end up with an hours worth of stuff that probably only offered seconds worth of things that resembled a TB emulation attempts.
Oddly enough, there was an FR drum machine in mind long prior to the Revolution.
I remember a conversation with Jared some time around 98 or 99....really wasn't that far off from when the 777 had been completed.
He had a drum machine in mind next at the time and was still rolling the concepts of the box around. Whether it would be all analog, dsp based are partially dsp based, etc.
Whatever the case, I'm not saying nor do I mean to even imply that the new product is a drum machine....
for some reason the memory of that conversation just popped back into my mind.
Thought some might find it interesting.