Synth with shift wave modulation

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Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by severen » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:05 pm

some people making glitch jitter lead with FIZMO.
it's easy. play and change the wave.
like this
http://migrant.nodong.net/maybbs/pds/mi ... yo/FIZ.mp3

but it's unsteady.
it can't control in LFO or Modulation Matrix.

so now I find Synth with shift wave modulation.
is it existence?

or how can make jitter lead in other synth?
Is it necessary modular or nord modular? :?

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by devetron » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:45 pm

The KORG MS-2000 can flip through its DWGS waves like that. I don't think you can assign an LFO to it, but you can use the mod sequencer to do it. Also, you could use Cubase or something to send LFO-like CC messages to OSC 1, control 2 (CC #15) to do it. The latter should also work with a Microkorg.
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by aredj » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:14 pm

The VIrus TI does this... With lfo's or the matrix... Not sure about earlier versions...

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by modulator_esp » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:24 pm

I would think you could do something similar with the Wavestation, as you can set up a wavesequence and step through it with the mod wheel or another controller, and steps can be smoothed using crossfades if you want
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by cornutt » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:51 pm

You could do it with a JD-800/990 if you have a sequencer that can send it sysex. I might have to try that...
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by Pighood » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:18 am

Waldorf XT can do this....Q can modify the PWM's with LFO...and in certain settings, this gets very strange. :shock:

BTW, Virus TI is wonderful at this.
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by aredj » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:49 am

Yeah... this thread inspired me to work a patch on the TI with this capability, which is now turning into a nice track...

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by Pighood » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:10 am

I just LOVE the graphic interface of the Virus Control within Logic. So seamless with the hardware knobs. =P~
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by Bitexion » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:52 pm

PPG Wave 2.x (early 80's) is famous for this kind of thing. Since you can modulate up and down the wavetables with LFO, envelope or wheel, you could create those kind of glitchy sounds easily. The wavetables were built so the waveforms would smoothly glide into eachother to create weird textures, but plenty of mismatched waves in there too.

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by aredj » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:57 pm

Oh yeah... the evolver can do this using CC....

or wait a sec... is it sysex? checking manual....

Yeah... cc 30-31

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by Bitexion » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:35 pm

Several modular synth companies also offer digital waveform modules with 256 waveforms, that are fully modulatable.

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by steveman » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:20 pm

Any of the Waldorf synths can do this - wavtable modulation. As mentioned there are other synths that allow selection of wavform via CCs or Sysex or an interanl sequencer, but most of these don't allow direct modulation of the wavetable via envelopes or LFO.

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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by severen » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:13 pm

Bitexion wrote:PPG Wave 2.x (early 80's) is famous for this kind of thing. Since you can modulate up and down the wavetables with LFO, envelope or wheel, you could create those kind of glitchy sounds easily. The wavetables were built so the waveforms would smoothly glide into eachother to create weird textures, but plenty of mismatched waves in there too.
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by calyx93 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:47 pm

The PPG Waves are okay at it, but only because even with gentle LFO wave modulation, it skips all over the place. This kind of a Wave hallmark of sorts since the wavetable switching is never very smooth, even pitch modulation is glitchy at times. Doing this to the upper wavetable can get close to the audio example posted.

The Microwave is VERY good at glitchy/skippy patches. Try modulating one of the 4 "trip" wavetables (in the 2.0 wavetable additions) using LFO1 modulated by LFO2. Experiment with the start wave, depth of modulation, LFO waveshape (random and S&H are great, especially when using LFO2 -> LFO1 modulation) and the "humanize" parameter. All of this, when tweaked well, can result in good "jittery" patch.
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Re: Synth with shift wave modulation

Post by Zamise » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:01 am

Sounding to me like any synth can if you've got a seq that you can enter and send program changes out to a synth that can receive it. Modulation via tempo/bpm instead of LFO ;)

Not sure how well that'd work, but throwing out an idea, maybe dumb or smart, prob dumb since I don't know.

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