Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
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Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Noobish question maybe, but always wondered what exactly does this naming convention mean and where does it come from? Does 8' = 440 Hz proper middle C? It seems to follow that whatever 2' means, the next octave is double the value, 4', just like the 12-tone scale octave is double the hertz. What do I properly call the units (the apostrophe) of this convention. The synth manuals I have never make mention as its always assumed and taken for granted.
Andromeda gets away from this strange convention altogether and calls the oscillator frequency for what it is.
Andromeda gets away from this strange convention altogether and calls the oscillator frequency for what it is.
Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
The naming convention comes from pipe organs where different lengths (or is it diameters ? Anyways it's linked to the size) would give you different pitches. Which one is which,i don't know but should be fairly easy to find out.
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Different pitch registers of pipe organs are measured in feet. Each octave is doubled in length.
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
LOL that's what I get for not really being into organs.
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Also, the shorter the pipe, the higher the pitch. While even number increments go in doubles by the octave, there are fractional increments too which play at a third, fouth, fith, seventh, etc. Middle C on the 8' setting is the same as middle C on a piano.
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Just found this page on the subject too, more in depth for those interested: http://www.die-orgelseite.de/fusszahlen_e.htm
Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Basically the 8 foot range is the "fundamental" one, so if you play middle C, you hear middle C (440Hz is the A above middle C). 4' is an octave higher, 16' an octave lower, & so on. As others have said, the convention comes from pipe organs, & a Hammond (or clone drawbar organ) has 9 footages to play with: 16', 8', 5 1/3', 4', 2 2/3', 2', 1 3/5'. 1 1/3', & 1' (though on most, with the exception of the Yamaha SK series, 5 1/3' is the second drawbar, & 8' the third). 5 1/3' is a fifth above 8', so if you play C you get the G above, 2 2/3' is a fifth above 4', 1 3/5' is a major third above 2', & 1 1/5' is a fifth above 2'.
If you find anything with a 64' range, make sure your speakers have a very good bass response, & move any fragile objects from nearby shelves & tables
My Spectrum goes down to 64' on both VCOs, and also has sub-octaves...
If you find anything with a 64' range, make sure your speakers have a very good bass response, & move any fragile objects from nearby shelves & tables
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
I believe 64' is an 8Hz tone. That's lower than most subwoofers can go.
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Not quite.Clavier wrote:I believe 64' is an 8Hz tone. That's lower than most subwoofers can go.
If A at 8' = 440 Hz then
16' = 220 Hz
32' = 110 Hz
64' = 55 Hz
A good sub should be able to handle 55 Hz no problem. In fact a good set of studio near-field monitors might even be able to go that low.
In fact a very crude formula to calculate all the fundamental frequencies of all footages playing an A note could be:
f(A)=440 x 2(^n)
Where n is the octave register represented by an integer (n=0 would obviously give a value of 440).
Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
That's the A above middle C though, consider that a 5-octave keyboard has another 2 As below that, at (for 64') 27.5Hz & 13.75Hz. Get down to the bottom C on the same keyboard & you're down around 8Hz, definitely sub-audio; bring pitch modulation in & you're going to be giving your LFO a run for its money 
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Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
Ian S wrote:That's the A above middle C though, consider that a 5-octave keyboard has another 2 As below that, at (for 64') 27.5Hz & 13.75Hz. Get down to the bottom C on the same keyboard & you're down around 8Hz, definitely sub-audio; bring pitch modulation in & you're going to be giving your LFO a run for its money
Ah, that makes sense.
I don't think you'll be able to hear it right enough, but feeling it is another matter entirely. Brown note anyone?
Re: Octave Range: 2' 4' 8' 16' 32'
So imagine my Spectrum at 64' on both VCOs with sub-octaves running, if I turned that up enough you'd probably feel it in Scotland 
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