PROMARS kicks a*s. This is why:

Synthazaiser · Post by **Synthazaiser** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:09 am

I f**k LOVE my new Roland Promars. And I would like to tell you all why.

Reasons why it kicks a*s:

- Snappy Envelopes

-Sliders instead of knobs

-Patch Memory

-A sexy, sexy filter

-Badassical good looks

-The most delicious noise source I have ever heard

Post by **nadafarms** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:48 am

post a demo

i don't believe you

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:54 am

I still don't know what constitutes a "snappy" envelope.

While sliders are good for some things, for other things they are absolutely irritating.

Patch memory is a crutch on a synth as simple as the ProMars.

What constitutes a filter like that??

Cannot even remotely argue with the badassical good looks. : )

While there are definitely shitty noise sources (any of the looped digital kind... I'm looking at you, MG-1... SHAME on you for that abomination), I want to know what constitutes a delicious one!

All of that being said, I have always wanted a ProMars, and have bid on at least two of them on eBay!

maindeglorie · Post by **maindeglorie** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:01 am

The Promars is f**k awesome. Great synth.
You'd love it's single oscillator brother, the Jupiter 4, too.

maindeglorie · Post by **maindeglorie** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:07 am

Automatic Gainsay wrote:I still don't know what constitutes a "snappy" envelope.

In my opinion, two things; one is a very fast attack where you almost get a pop at note on, and second would be the curve of the attack and decay. Exponential seems "snappier" to me.

Automatic Gainsay wrote:While sliders are good for some things, for other things they are absolutely irritating.

See, I love sliders. I actually think I prefer them over knobs, but the dust issue with them (making them noisy) is a little annoying. Although, I really think it comes down to the synth: the ARP Solus or Oddy with sliders = amazing, a Mini, Voyager, LP with sliders = an epic fail.

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:36 pm

maindeglorie wrote:See, I love sliders. I actually think I prefer them over knobs, but the dust issue with them (making them noisy) is a little annoying. Although, I really think it comes down to the synth: the ARP Solus or Oddy with sliders = amazing, a Mini, Voyager, LP with sliders = an epic fail.

There are some things I prefer sliders for, and other things I prefer knobs for, I guess!
The dust thing is a problem, though!
Primarily: There is nothing more nightmarish than trying to tune or play in realtime with a lateral slider set into a vertical device!

Z · Post by Z » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:48 pm

I had mine on eBay for a while, but just recently pulled it off since I decided to keep it.

Post by **aeon** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:40 pm

maindeglorie wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote:I still don't know what constitutes a "snappy" envelope.
In my opinion, two things; one is a very fast attack where you almost get a pop at note on, and second would be the curve of the attack and decay. Exponential seems "snappier" to me.

Agreed!

cheers,
Ian

pflosi · Post by **pflosi** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:11 pm

Z wrote:I had mine on eBay for a while, but just recently pulled it off since I decided to keep it.

now that's a nice pic of two brothers together

Analogue Crazy · Post by **Analogue Crazy** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:56 pm

I went through a phase where i posted a post every week on here saying how much i loved my Promars. Yeah the Promars is a dam nice monosynth...i sold it and bought a Jupiter-4 but don't have the Jupe now either. I miss them both, they were gorgeous characterful beasts.

hfinn · Post by **hfinn** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:56 am

Although keep in mind knobs can get just as scratchy as sliders...

Synthazaiser · Post by **Synthazaiser** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:11 am

The envelope is "snappy" because when I set the attack to a high value, there is no key click or other initial sound before the envelope. Also, when I'm using the decay with the attack slider set to 0, there is no attack time - like it should be. When I release a key and the release slider is all the way down, the note is off as soon as the key is let off. When the attack is the only slider up and the attack finishes, there is no more sound - just a clean note off.

I prefer sliders for everything.

I like to use the patch memory as a notepad when I find nice sounds that I want to remember later. Also, when I'm recording a song, I save all of the sounds so that if I want to go back and add a little bit to one part of the song, I have exactly the same sound I used the first time.

I really like the sound of the filter when it's on the verge of self-oscillating. Overall, the filter is "clean" sounding (compared to my other analog synths I've had and have) (Mono-Poly and Axxe with the moog infringement filter). My previous analogs didn't have high pass filters either.

As for the noise source, it's a narrowish band of pink noise that is smooth sounding. My monopoly had a wider band of pink noise, closer to white noise and my Axxe has waaaay too much low end in the noise, which I find irritating. I could listen to the noise on the Promars all day. For real.

Post by **Stab Frenzy** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:16 am

Analogue Crazy wrote:I went through a phase where i posted a post every week on here saying how much i loved my Promars.

How I miss the olden days. The semi-nude boudoir shots you post these days just aren't the same.

Automatic Gainsay · Post by **Automatic Gainsay** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:52 am

Z wrote:I had mine on eBay for a while, but just recently pulled it off since I decided to keep it.

:::covets::::

clusterchord · Post by **clusterchord** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:05 am

nadafarms wrote:post a demo

i don't believe you

here you go, nada

:

http://www.babic.com/SYN/PROMARS/PROMAR ... _lead1.mp3
http://www.babic.com/SYN/PROMARS/PROMAR ... w_lead.mp3
http://www.babic.com/SYN/PROMARS/PROMAR ... p_lead.mp3
http://www.babic.com/SYN/PROMARS/PROMAR ... hen_fm.mp3
http://www.babic.com/SYN/PROMARS/PROMAR ... w_lead.mp3

made these on a friend's promars. peticularly chees choice of melodies n scales, but you can hear that liquid character very well i think. the envelopes on jupiter4 and promars are about the fastest on any vintage analog ive tried. and self oscillation on that liquid filter is just to die for.. fm was done driving that lfo speed way into audio range.

interesting how SH1 and SH2 ahve been made at aproximately same era as promars an JP4, yet feature oposite character - very thick, dry and raw. no smoothness, no liquid filtering. but raw power and punch. thats why i feel JP4 with SH2 is most complementing combo of sml Rolands you can get.

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