Vangelis "The Bounty" re-recording..?

[D-Collector]

Intrada will release a re-recorded version of the complete score for "The Bounty".

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6 ... category=7

I love the soundtrack in that movie, very sad and haunting.

At first I thought "Wow, has Vangelis remade it himself..?" Instead it seems it's done by Dominik Hauser. I wonder how this will turn out, not yet any demo examples. Will he manage to capture Vangelis' magic?

EDIT: Found mp3 demo:



Hmm..

[upfineclouds]

The reverb sounds a bit intrusive on this clip. Especially on the melodic part which should breathe more instead of being stewed like that. Sorry for being critical but that's what strikes me when listening to it. Vangelis used a lot of reverb but his recordings sound more natural.

[Syn303]

Ughh FAIL, is this guy just another Ed Starink. Of course the true original excellent score Vangelis will never see the light of day though, i already own the 2-disc off-world version and that's good enough for me.

[D-Collector]

Yeah, it sounds too clinical clinical, and the sounds themselves also misses the mark. Youtube fan remake yes, but not selling it as an official album. Here more demos:

Sailing On:

End Titles:


vs.




Why can't they just release the original soundtrack ???

[CS_TBL]

Epic fail.

And Vangelis' style can be reproduced fairly well, but not by simply picking some presets from random 'recent' ROMplers and basic samplers.

CS80, VP330, Rhodes, FM, a few basic drumcomputers, real or sampled percussion and a real piano or CP70. That's the basic formula for Vangelis.

[b3groover]

The re-make clips have none of the majesty or depth of Vangelis. I agree; why can't we just get the original soundtrack?

[danbroad]

It sounds like a MIDI file played through a computer soundcard. None of the ethereal, misty loneliness of the original.

[D-Collector]

It sounds like a MIDI file played through a computer soundcard

+1

I came close to writing that very sentence in my first post, but I thought it was too cruel. But after hearing the end titles I find it completely apt.

[CS_TBL]

'End Titles' needs less cowbell

[D-Collector]

Ughh FAIL, is this guy just another Ed Starink. Of course the true original excellent score Vangelis will never see the light of day though, i already own the 2-disc off-world version and that's good enough for me.

Starinks version of the Closing Titles is not bad at all in my opinion, in fact I find it quite good!

'End Titles' needs less cowbell

Yes it does!

[spookyman]

No comparison...The original was recorded with the gear that where mentioned before (CS-80, VP-330, CP-70, etc.) and these analog and electro-mechanical instruments are adding some of the sweetness in sound.

But it's also probably due to the recording technic. I presume that a Studer A800 or any kind of analog tape machine where used.

[danbroad]

It's not so much the recording technique as the whole outlook. This recording sounds like late 90's JV module sounds - nothing wrong there. But they're not as organic as the originals, as though the stock sounds have been used without any programming to humanize them. The reverb is all wrong, too, sounding like a hall or theatre preset from either a lexicon or a plugin; again, nothing wrong with that but not as imperfect as the now-vintage plates used on the original.

Regardless of the signal path, the biggest crime is that it's mixed poorly (cowbell too prominent etc) and - here's the biggie - it's overquantised, losing the imperfect and endearing timing of the original. Too cold, too sterile. I'm not an analog purist and it's not an analog warmth I'm looking for - warmth comes from the human side of the recording, not the gear - but as I said, it gives the impression of a MIDI file playback. if this was a home effort then I'd be congratulating someone on their perseverance and finished product. But for a commercial release it opens itself up to the critics, like on here.

[D-Collector]

Very fitting review from George Pacheco:

http://www.examiner.com/movie-in-boston ... hes-review

Personally, after listening again to the raping of the end theme I think mr. Pacheco was far too lenient in his review.

Notice also that Intrada no longer show the CD album in the "coming soon" section, in fact I cannot find it anywhere on the site. Not even a mention in the forum! Clearly we are not the only ones dissatisfied with this.

I know I really shouldn't care. But I like Vangelis very much, have great respect for him and I feel that if a score of his is to have an "official remake" (instead of releasing the original -god knows why), it deserves a h**l of a lot more effort than this.

Sorry mr. Hauser.

[memory cords]

I wish Vangelis would just release the original score (I expect this will never happen though, at least as long as he is still alive). I have the Off World bootleg and while it's better than nothing the sound quality is poor and occasionally distorted.

A remake would be fine if it was done by the right person, unfortunately Dominik Hauser doesn't have the right approach. For Nemo-era Vangelis it's not just the notes that are important it's also the analog timbres and the subtle human timing (Vangelis plays almost everything by hand rather than sequencing).

Personally I think they should get that youtube guy mik300z to do it, he gets very close to the sound and 'feel' of Vangelis.

Here's some unreleased (at least officially) tracks from the original Vangelis version, really beautiful:





I really wish Vangelis would go back to his analog equipment... I think his post-Nemo recordings really suffer because he started using Korg and Roland digital gear for the majority of his sounds.

Here's mik300z doing some Vangelis covers (including The Bounty), he's much better than both Ed Starink and Dominik Hauser:

[b3groover]

That movie really affected me as a kid; the scene of the natives killing the crew members, the violence, the fear... I probably shouldn't have been watching it as a 10 year old. It's an incredible movie, though and Vangelis' score is remarkably beautiful. I too wish it would be released on it's own.