MF-104M Midi Sync Delay

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MF-104M Midi Sync Delay

Post by Sir Nose » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:23 pm

New fooger coming down the line. Cluster Flux format Delay.

Any guesses to the type of delay? BBD (what chips) or digitally modelled

I am guessing BBD with newly manufactured Chinese clones.

It has the LFO of the MF-108M. I wonder if it will have the CV out that is missing from the 108.
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Re: MF-104M Midi Sync Delay

Post by phesago » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:06 pm

Is this speculation? Or is there a confirmed source of info?

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Re: MF-104M Midi Sync Delay

Post by nathanscribe » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:22 pm

Apparently there's an ad in the Sweetwater catalogue. Looks just like a Cluster Flux with MIDI, Tap tempo and multi-wave LFO etc, but I'm guessing it has a longer BBD line in it. Take a look at the Moog forum.

I recently got an EHX DMM w/TT 1100, which uses 4x MN3005, and from what I gather, EHX grabbed a load of fake chips which is why the run was limited to about 500, according to an employee on the EHX forum. Hence the release of the 550 version, with half the delay time but otherwise identical features.

I wonder if the new 104M is going to suffer a similarly short run, should it use NOS BBDs. I don't think it would be unjustifiable to use cheaper modern clones of those chips, as at least that permits stuff to be built, but I can see why a company like Moog would not want to, and would rather make a limited run of units using NOS sourced as and when.

Be interesting to see what the full spec is on this new model - I haven't seen mention of the delay time yet.

Also, I doubt this'll bring the current used price of about £600 down at all...

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Re: MF-104M Midi Sync Delay

Post by Rick N Boogie » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:33 pm

That's the thing, price. The last delay they made was way more than I'm willing to shell out for a delay pedal, but maybe I'm missing the point.
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Re: MF-104M Midi Sync Delay

Post by GuyaGuy » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:04 pm

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