New stuff from Roland!

[Explorer]

The 808 and 909 will go down! or not ...
will see!

According to last nights evilbay auction i doubt.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TR-808-ROLAND ... 7675.l2557

2500£ = 3000 euro = 4100 usd with the currency at this very moment.

[rob_lee]

Ooooh nice my Pulse 2 matches the colour codes of these units. I know what's getting chained to my TR-8 now

Rob

[kuroichi]

2500£ = 3000 euro = 4100 usd with the currency at this very moment.

He wrote 'I HAVE BEEN SCANNING THE NET AND THIS ONE IS THE MOST CLEANEST I HAVE SEEN HANDS DOWN'. This is just an outright lie. hahaha.

I like to use 808s and 909s, but even I wouldn't pay that much for one. I would pretty much guarantee, even now, I could find a better condition 808 for cheaper than that. The key is patience, and completely avoiding eBay as much as possible.

Inflation wise, I sold a far better condition 808 for half that price about a year ago. I don't think people are buying them to even use them anymore. I sold my 909, which was immaculate, to someone who I knew was just buying it because of the hype, and would never use it in any amount which would warrant its price, and he sold it about a month later for £200 more.

People are even trying to hype the prices on the R-70 on the basis of it's involvement in footwork production, even though the majority of footwork producers use samples ripped from the R-70 and not the actual machine...

[rob_lee]

2500£ = 3000 euro = 4100 usd with the currency at this very moment.

He wrote 'I HAVE BEEN SCANNING THE NET AND THIS ONE IS THE MOST CLEANEST I HAVE SEEN HANDS DOWN'. This is just an outright lie. hahaha.

I like to use 808s and 909s, but even I wouldn't pay that much for one. I would pretty much guarantee, even now, I could find a better condition 808 for cheaper than that. The key is patience, and completely avoiding eBay as much as possible.

Inflation wise, I sold a far better condition 808 for half that price about a year ago. I don't think people are buying them to even use them anymore. I sold my 909, which was immaculate, to someone who I knew was just buying it because of the hype, and would never use it in any amount which would warrant its price, and he sold it about a month later for £200 more.


People are even trying to hype the prices on the R-70 on the basis of it's involvement in footwork production, even though the majority of footwork producers use samples ripped from the R-70 and not the actual machine...

I'd be too embarrassed to even mention i paid that much for an 808. I mean you'd have to be some sort of mug to pay that much OR a rich mug.. either way a mug.
£1500 is okay if your a die hard BUT come on these things are mostly bought by guys with studios that when visitors call for coffee then the TR808 suddenly lights up lol.. seen it all before
For £2500 i get all the new Roland gear plus a Virus TI2 Desktop (or just about).. i know i wouldn't be a mug and spend or even invest that much in a 30+ yr old drum box no matter what the hype.

Rob

[kuroichi]

The most I would pay is around £1200, and I used mine everyday with rare exceptions. I would even put it on just to play some beats as background music sometimes rather than listen to music hahaha, which sounds quite corny now, but I would often just listen to it playing solo.

Everytime people mentioned an 808 or 909 to me and I said I own one they would get all amazed, but when I inquired further they often had no idea what it actually was or why they thought like that. They just had all these music video style associations that they put on the machines.

In that sense the TR-8 makes sense to me, but at the same time the TR-8 is missing something that makes me not take it as seriously (which is more to do with its physical build, my sense of nostalgia etc). I guess the only issue with the TR-8 is, nowadays I feel like I'm always having to use emulations of things, rather than the real deal, but that applies to many aspects of modern life I guess. Thats why I was hoping for some original sounds, or some more capabilities from it. I was hoping it would be like a Nord Drum, with a x0x sequencer tbh...

[rob_lee]

Emulations are ok and great if your working within the computer but for me there's nothing better than the hands on control hence i took the plunge and pre ordered all the new Roland units except the Vocoder one. Says no ETA but i reckon end of march i'll have them. Once i hook up the Pulse 2 and Nord 4r + Analog 4 i reckon that's a nice little jam rig and will do me
Later in summer the Analog Rytm will join the family here

Rob

[Jabberwalky]

I'd like to see a midi spec. It sounds great, but I also like to use Ableton's drum rack. If each part transmits a midi note, and each knob transmits an independent CC value, this could be a winner. I'm currently using the Korg Es1 as a midi step sequencer. The es1 uses NRPN for the edit knobs, which really kills my workflow.

[rob_lee]

I'd like to see a midi spec. It sounds great, but I also like to use Ableton's drum rack. If each part transmits a midi note, and each knob transmits an independent CC value, this could be a winner. I'm currently using the Korg Es1 as a midi step sequencer. The es1 uses NRPN for the edit knobs, which really kills my workflow.

Here you go mate a quote from Sonic State.

However all the knobs do transmit CC so you can automate via an external DAW

Also here the page link to the read:

SONIC STATE TR-8

Some comment below some guy saying about the D16 stuff (software) sounding better. Well errrr no comment. Sounds better or not i'd rather tweak knobs than click a mouse but that's just me.

Rob

[Jabberwalky]

Thanks Rob. I missed that part. This looks solid. It's really meant to be played as you track it. I'm sure within a month people will be flying on this thing (just as they have on the electribes) and really proving it's worth. What I don't like? The scatter knob. I don't write glitchy s**t, and feel it's overused anyway. Why does that get the biggest damn knob on the machine??

[rob_lee]

Hehe i'd prefer a nice filter knob where the scatter button is on the TR-8 just like on my BS2. Anyways i'm looking forward to mine coming whenever that may be.

Rob

[rob_lee]

Just been watching this one:

ROLAND AIRA's

Also someone who knows what he's talking about here... interesting.



also



Rob

[shaft9000]

not bad!

for the price as knockaround jam gear they might be excellent?

faders are always a good thing. the interface is pretty damn inviting - and not enough instruments are.
sure, i'm not at all eyeing my 999 or miami to let go, not one bit.
at first couple listens the TR-8 sounds rather flat, the kick is overboosted and no jomox kick at that; snare is disappointing, blah blah.
But it has some nice tricks and odd limitations. but for the money how can u complain?

the 303 thing is a kind of yuck; substituting the decay or EG amount knobs(?!?) for 'effect' is the obvious ball-drop. Leave it to Roland to dumb-down and simplify a synth as, uh, simple as the TB-303... twice.
it's not much of anything a kaoss pad and/or a decent fx chain can't achieve with some elbow grease, but hey, the more the merrier and to have 50% of the 303 sound-range and 50% something else entirely in one piece at dat price is alright

...hopefully they sell well and Roland develops more interesting, better sound gear further in the future

[rob_lee]

not bad! it has some nice tricks and odd limitations. but for the money how can u complain?

Exactly what i thought but sometimes limitations are good and yeah for the money i'm not complaining at all. As i said earlier i'll take this and real hands on over any mouse clicking any day lol

Rob

[shaft9000]

probably the biggest ball-drop on the TR-8 is the exclusion of any tr-707 or 727 sounds. the 808 is close enough to the 606, and i don't think i'd want to work with a digital emu of a 606 snare, anyway.
they're going for the obvious, without being conscious of how important the 707 and 727 are to the sound of so much house music, nor the 606 use in more modern tracks.

VT-3 all the way...thing is mental

[rob_lee]

probably the biggest ball-drop on the TR-8 is the exclusion of any tr-707 or 727 sounds. the 808 is close enough to the 606, and i don't think i'd want to work with a digital emu of a 606 snare, anyway.
they're going for the obvious, without being conscious of how important the 707 and 727 are to the sound of so much house music, nor the 606 use in more modern tracks.

You know i wouldn't be surprised if and i mean if Roland are waiting to see how these units do and in the near future will carry on the range and bring out TR-6 or TR-7 boxes. I personally think that this batch of AIRA's is just the beginning.
I may be wrong but i hope anyways.

Rob