Boss RE-201 Space Echo, survey says...............

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Boss RE-201 Space Echo, survey says...............

Post by maindeglorie » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:16 pm

AWESOME!

I picked it up on a whim, fearing that the emulation would be too..,emulated. And wow, was I surprised. My first test was to run it through the Little Phatty, where it sounded nice. The Boss retained all tone of the original, maybe darkening it up a bit, but there's bass and trebble settings on the RE, so that's fine. The major thing with pedals for me, is that they retain the tone of the synth when active, and when passive. The RE does this perfectly.

My next move was to run my Nord Lead 3 through it, since it has stereo ins and outs! And this is where it really shined for me. I love the NL3, but I have been looking for something to warm that tone up a bit, and take some of the brightness out. The RE actually did this wonderfully, alas it shall remain constantly on the outs of the Nord. I tried a bunch of different pedals to give the Nord a more softer feel, and to sit in mixes better. The Boss nailed it. I never would have thought that a virtual pedal, would warm up a virtual analog, but irony is ironic; like when a clown dies. :wink:

Great pedal. I recommend it. The reverb emulation doesn't sound like the real deal, but it does sound like c**p, in a good way, like the original.

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Re: Boss RE-201 Space Echo, survey says...............

Post by Syn303 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:41 pm

maindeglorie wrote:AWESOME!

I picked it up on a whim, fearing that the emulation would be too..,emulated. And wow, was I surprised. My first test was to run it through the Little Phatty, where it sounded nice. The Boss retained all tone of the original, maybe darkening it up a bit, but there's bass and trebble settings on the RE, so that's fine. The major thing with pedals for me, is that they retain the tone of the synth when active, and when passive. The RE does this perfectly.

My next move was to run my Nord Lead 3 through it, since it has stereo ins and outs! And this is where it really shined for me. I love the NL3, but I have been looking for something to warm that tone up a bit, and take some of the brightness out. The RE actually did this wonderfully, alas it shall remain constantly on the outs of the Nord. I tried a bunch of different pedals to give the Nord a more softer feel, and to sit in mixes better. The Boss nailed it. I never would have thought that a virtual pedal, would warm up a virtual analog, but irony is ironic; like when a clown dies. :wink:

Great pedal. I recommend it. The reverb emulation doesn't sound like the real deal, but it does sound like c**p, in a good way, like the original.
Thanks for that, but the pedal doesn't hit the f***in UK till Jan 2008 now according to Roland UK. There is an alternative, which is Behringer's new Echo-Machine which i possibly think is a clone of the space-echo pedal, and only priced £39 compared to Roland's £129 price tag!
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Post by space6oy » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:28 pm

hey Syn303, are you talking about the RE-20 or the original RE-201?

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Post by wiss » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:47 pm

I tried out the Boss "Space Echo" a few months ago...being a former owner of the 150 and 201....its ok, I wasnt blown away. Not worth $250
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Post by shaft9000 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:05 pm

glad you like it

the demos i've heard of the RE-20 sound like a plugin; definitely not as smooth and lush as a decent BBD delay pedal. i'm sure it's nice, but adding resonance & reverb to a digital delay pedal doesn't magically turn it into a space echo. on the roland site they claim painstaking r&d went into this, but i don't hear it in the demos.
as digital fx pedals go, the DD-20 does a lot more for about the same price, often cheaper.
this is yet another retro-styled cut-down adaptation of another product, dolled up to sell units. It's worth about $150 list max. the extra 100 is for the graphics and "heritage".
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Post by route_electrique » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:59 am

Yeah, i've red some good reviews about this pedal.

Anyway, i dont think it will be even close to compared original Space Echo (tone), i cant say for sure since i havent tested RE20. I've heared original Space Echo in action at my friends place (i turn green everytime i hear it in action), so my expectations are quite high.

Well, one thing is sure, new RE20 gotta be much more flexible than older RE201. So, what you lose in tone, you get back in features :). Deal ?. h**l yeah! for me.
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Post by Syn303 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:58 am

space6oy wrote:hey Syn303, are you talking about the RE-20 or the original RE-201?
I was talking about the RE-20, not the original. However below is the Behringer Echo-Machine pedal, priced only UK £39.

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Post by redchapterjubilee » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:33 pm

Wow, that Behringer is a dead-ringer copy of the Echo Park.
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Post by esqoner » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:53 pm

i'll take one haha...when they come out at least. i like the compressor i got from them.

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Post by route_electrique » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:13 pm

However below is the Behringer Echo-Machine pedal, priced only UK £39.
I rather get wasted, than getting device from Behringer :D.
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Post by Meso » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:13 pm

route_electrique wrote:
However below is the Behringer Echo-Machine pedal, priced only UK £39.
I rather get wasted, than getting device from Behringer :D.
I too try to avoid Behringer stuff, had a Behringer dj mixer on loan for a while and it was the worst mixer I have ever tried, ended up using my friends old Gemini mixer instead.

Although in Behringer's defense I have a BCD2000 and its all right for the price (~$100) it has a cheap feel to it but it IS cheap.

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Post by clusterchord » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:34 am

space6oy wrote:hey Syn303, are you talking about the RE-20 or the original RE-201?
original was issued as Roland, not Boss division product.


using original all the time, i can tell u its impossible to model all quirks, wow&flutter and "mojo" this thing spits out. very organic, sometimes unpredictible. which doenst mean the digital pedal version cannot be very useful too. but tape based stuffin general, is very, very hard to model accuarately. nto even ballpark from what ive heard so far (line6 n uad attempts).
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Post by GeneralBigbag » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:14 am

route_electrique wrote:
However below is the Behringer Echo-Machine pedal, priced only UK £39.
I rather get wasted, than getting device from Behringer :D.
You know what's going to happen?
It's going to be revealed that someone like Burial, or one of the other Dubstep luminaries is using 100% Behringer gear, and in 10 years...
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Post by krushing » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:42 am

Burial claims in this interview that he does everything in Soundforge. No sequncer, no nuttin'. :D

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Post by aeon » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:44 am

clusterchord wrote:using original all the time, i can tell u its impossible to model all quirks, wow&flutter and "mojo" this thing spits out. very organic, sometimes unpredictible. which doenst mean the digital pedal version cannot be very useful too. but tape based stuffin general, is very, very hard to model accuarately. nto even ballpark from what ive heard so far (line6 n uad attempts).
Yep, very much agreed. I have a RE-201 and SRE-555 here. No other devices in my studio have as much euphony, and a big part of that is the organic nature of the sound. Electro-mechanical tone of this kind is evergreen and I especially like it in context with the best of the digital tools. It provides a sound that nothing else can, at any price.


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