[voice effects] going from software to hardware

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[voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by BlackGnosis » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:05 am

I'm hoping to find something that can meet all my vocal needs.
Keeping the virus KC's audio precessing capabilities out, I intend to max it out live anyways.

I'm searching for a device, be it stompbox or rack mounted that gives me lofi sounds [for radio and telephone sounds] and some that can mimic me in real time singing in an octive higher or lower, plus imitate like theres 2-4 people singing in my same range. or am I describing somehing all multi effects processors for voice can pull off?

Suggestions? should I just get a SE-50 and use the guitar effects for my desired results?
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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by tallowwaters » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:44 am

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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by tekkentool » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:55 am

BlackGnosis wrote:I'm hoping to find something that can meet all my vocal needs.
Keeping the virus KC's audio precessing capabilities out, I intend to max it out live anyways.

I'm searching for a device, be it stompbox or rack mounted that gives me lofi sounds [for radio and telephone sounds] and some that can mimic me in real time singing in an octive higher or lower, plus imitate like theres 2-4 people singing in my same range. or am I describing somehing all multi effects processors for voice can pull off?

Suggestions? should I just get a SE-50 and use the guitar effects for my desired results?
Almost any eventide can do this, but you'll be paying fairly steeply even for a second hand 80's unit.

or what about combining a roland Vp-7 with a few other external effects.

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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by tallowwaters » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:00 am

Actually Boss currently makes a double pedal that can do most of these things. TC Helicon does a lot of vocal fx as well.
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Post by th0mas » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:03 pm

tallowwaters wrote:TC Helicon does a lot of vocal fx as well.
Guitarist in my old band had a tc helicon vocal harmonizer. I don't remember it doing lofi, it definitely cannot do realistic. Maybe it'd work to thicken up a solo acoustic act's vocal presence (as in most of the demo videos), but in a dense mix it just muddied the vocals.

Every time he turned it on it sounded like total s**t. Then again every time he had it off it usually sounded like total s**t, too...

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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by tallowwaters » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:52 pm

He likely had no clue what he was doing. The big Voice Live multi fx have plenty of lo fi stuff too. It definitely sounds more realistic (in the hands of he with a clue) than those Digitech s**t boxes.
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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by Scories » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:26 pm

Maybe you should have a look at Eventide PitchFactor's stompbox.
I don't have one of these, but it seems to be made for those tricks.

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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by tallowwaters » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:28 pm

Does the pitchfactor even have any of the Eventide algos that let you alter formants? Otherwise it's all going to be chipmunks.
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Post by Stab Frenzy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:11 am

No, the pitchfactor doesn't have the formant stuff, it's chipmunks.

I have a voicelive, it's pretty good actually. We don't use it live any more cause it's not very hands-on tweakable and our vocalist would prefer just to have a delay to tweak, but it sounded good. The harmonies were quite configurable, you could make them go from robotically tight to quite loose sounding and change a lot of other stuff. The only thing was that it wouldn't do really unnatural stuff that easily, I probably should have gotten an eclipse or something instead.

I've mixed a few bands that use the Digitech boxes live and I think they're pretty good. They don't sound like you've got people hidden somewhere off stage doing the BVs but I've liked the sound they've gotten.

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Re: [voice effects] going from software to hardware

Post by BlackGnosis » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:17 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:No, the pitchfactor doesn't have the formant stuff, it's chipmunks.

I have a voicelive, it's pretty good actually. We don't use it live any more cause it's not very hands-on tweakable and our vocalist would prefer just to have a delay to tweak, but it sounded good. The harmonies were quite configurable, you could make them go from robotically tight to quite loose sounding and change a lot of other stuff. The only thing was that it wouldn't do really unnatural stuff that easily, I probably should have gotten an eclipse or something instead.

I've mixed a few bands that use the Digitech boxes live and I think they're pretty good. They don't sound like you've got people hidden somewhere off stage doing the BVs but I've liked the sound they've gotten.

Voice live might be my best shot when I'm not vocoding. I'm just getting tired of recording myself singing in one pitch and having to do it again in an octive higher... :/ but the VL seems like a good choice considering its got a lot of the effects i"m looking for [from seeing many of the videos on youtube] the roland twin pedal looks interseting too :o I should give em both a try.
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