Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

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Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by GuyaGuy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:30 am

With most fx units that have stereo ins, you can run a mono in, typically on the left channel. But if you have your patchbay hooked up for stereo and run the mono signal into that left channel, the unit will know it also has a right channel plug in it and expect right channel audio in. How do you work around this?

This Sound On Sound article suggests hardwiring the patchbay: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec99/a ... tchbay.htm

I could manage the solder job but would prefer not to hard wire. Patchbays are about flexibility, after all. Are there other methods or approaches for setting this up?

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by pflosi » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:57 am

If your patchbay is half-normalled, you could use the patchbay to split the source and send it to both effect inputs... An y-cable might work as well.

Alternatively, just plug out the right channel from the effect when you want to use it mono in...?

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by Stab Frenzy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:33 am

Take the half normalled output from the left input and plug it into the input of the right channel. :thumbleft:

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by pflosi » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:50 am

That's also splitting, right? Or am I missing something? :?:

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by Stab Frenzy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:07 am

Yeah you're totally right, I had that window open to reply for a while before I hit submit and you'd also replied in the mean time.

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by nathanscribe » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:36 am

Also, some effects units can be configured to route inputs and outputs according to user settings, rather than simply what's plugged in. Depends what unit you've got.

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by GuyaGuy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:48 pm

pflosi wrote:If your patchbay is half-normalled, you could use the patchbay to split the source and send it to both effect inputs... An y-cable might work as well.

Alternatively, just plug out the right channel from the effect when you want to use it mono in...?
Stab Frenzy wrote:Take the half normalled output from the left input and plug it into the input of the right channel. :thumbleft:
Cool, I'll try that this evening. I can test it myself, but in general are there any disadvantages of splitting the signal like that--phasing, volume drop, whatever?

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by GuyaGuy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:49 pm

nathanscribe wrote:Also, some effects units can be configured to route inputs and outputs according to user settings, rather than simply what's plugged in. Depends what unit you've got.
True. Only one device has it that I can think of. Some of them are analog and don't have fancy programing features.

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Re: Mono out into stereo in via patchbay

Post by GuyaGuy » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:44 am

I wanted to make sure I understand how/why your suggestion works. So I decided to see if the manual for my Neutrik patchbay has a diagram. (Bought it used with no manual) And look what I found...

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Guess it pays to RTFM! I just needed to switch the PCB around and I was in business. This is great because I can now easily incorporate my guitar rig into rack-land!

Anyhoo thanks!

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